449 | Former Pro Basketball Player Breaks Down Mental Toughness

Apr 1

[00:00:00] Dre Baldwin: Whenever I'm telling the story, like, you know, one year of high school, I walked on to play in college, E3, and then hustled my way into playing pro ball. It sounds a lot more heroic than it felt. I'm not a big fan of everything in moderation. I don't like when I even hear people say that. It just sounds like average.
[00:00:17] Dre Baldwin: It's just reeks of averageness being in the middle. Yeah. Just joining the masses. You never once
[00:00:22] Chaz Wolfe: said someone saw me play and gave me a full ride. Offer invitation, like literally nothing ever period, which is so relatable to entrepreneurs.
[00:00:37] Chaz Wolfe: Welcome back to gathering the King's podcast. I'm your host, Chaz Wolf, and today we are joined by Dre Baldwin, a former basketball player, pro basketball player, turned entrepreneur and author.
[00:00:49] Chaz Wolfe: Dre's journey from Philadelphia to the global stage and his transition from athlete to keynote speaker on the TEDx stage. Not once, not twice, but four times and counting. He's written 11 books, has over 48 million views on YouTube. And it's truly inspiring. He's here to share not only his insights on mental toughness and confidence and discipline, but his work on yo game program so that you can elevate, go to the next level.
[00:01:15] Chaz Wolfe: Here we go.
[00:01:16] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Welcome Dre Baldwin to the King stage. My brother, how we doing?
[00:01:19] Dre Baldwin: I'm doing excellent. Chaz, how are you?
[00:01:21] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: You know, today's Wednesday, you know, I love Wednesdays really. I love every day. You too. You do too though, right?
[00:01:27] Dre Baldwin: Yeah, I mean, they're all, doesn't matter what day it
[00:01:30] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: That's right. It's another day to get it. Uh, Dre, I'm, I'm excited for this conversation. Um, you have a super unique background that the listeners just got to listen to in the intro, but. Tell us what kind of business that you have.
[00:01:41] Dre Baldwin: Well, hope I can live up to that intro, but as far as, uh, my business is, it's called work on your game. Chaz, it, it all sprouted from my background as an athlete. I was putting content online before that was a normal thing to do. And just for basketball players, just teaching them how to actually literally play basketball.
[00:01:57] Dre Baldwin: And they just started asking me questions about my mindset because they found out about my background, which I'm sure we'll get into a little bit. And I just started talking about the mental tools that I was utilizing to excel as an athlete. So things like showing up consistently and believing in yourself and having a mental selfness to deal with setbacks and not sitting around waiting for someone to do something for you, but going in kind of creating opportunities for yourself.
[00:02:20] Dre Baldwin: And when I started talking about those things, of course, the players appreciated it, but people who didn't play sports started hearing those messages. And they said, well, Jerry, this stuff applies. To people who are off the basketball court as well. So that was kind of like the light bulb moment that told me what my segue would be out of the sports realm into the professional and business realm.
[00:02:38] Dre Baldwin: And I've been there ever since. So I stopped playing ball in 2015 and pretty much been doing that. Now our framework is based around yes. Mindset also strategy systems, accountability. I've been doing that for almost the last 10 years, full time.
[00:02:50] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Wow. I love it. And of course, uh, you've been on some cool stages and spoken in front of crowds and, and really been able to, uh, develop a message really of this mental toughness, we're going to get into some of that, but the, the truth is, is that you've gotten to where you have been, not by happenstance, because you, you said you had to kind of create some opportunities for yourself.
[00:03:10] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Give us just a quick, like, you know, you, you played ball, but like you and I, as ballplayers, you played professionally way above where I was, but we know what that means, but like, give us just a little bit more, a little bit of the history, but then what does it mean to play at that level? Cause it was, it was up there.
[00:03:28] Dre Baldwin: Yeah. Interesting question. So. I was always into sports growing up, got to basketball, got around to basketball by around age 14, which is pretty late if you're trying to go somewhere in the sport, like play college ball or play professionally, let alone professionally. So only played 1 year in high school, sat the bench the 1 year I was on the team.
[00:03:45] Dre Baldwin: I like to tell people I had a front row seats, all the games right there on the bench front row seat and got out of high school. I knew I was going to go to college period, but as far as sports goes, it's not like I was being recruited. No one was checking for me because I hadn't done anything in high school because your high school performance gets you into college as far as sports goes.
[00:04:03] Dre Baldwin: So I walked on to play in college. That was at the division three level. For those who don't know what walking on means, it means you. Literally just walk in there and you try to play your way into an opportunity because you were not invited. Nobody knew you were coming. And I did that, but it was only at the D three level, which does not produce the pro players.
[00:04:20] Dre Baldwin: So again, people who don't know the sports world, division one college sports is the stuff you see on television. Then you had division two, which you rarely see. And then division three, which you never see those guys down in the basement. And most of us at the division three level, Chaz are not even thinking about playing pro.
[00:04:34] Dre Baldwin: They usually don't have ambitions of pro ball. That's why we're playing D three because we usually don't have the pedigree to be professional players. But being, and I was kind of a late bloomer, as I told you, I started late. I could still feel myself getting better. So getting out of college, I felt like I could play pro ball, but the rest of the world did not. So again, no one was calling me to play pro ball when I got out of college. So my first year out of school, I worked at a couple quote unquote, regular jobs. I worked at Foot Locker, uh, selling sneakers. I worked at a gym called Valley total fitness, some memberships and Bally's is out of business now, but not because of me.
[00:05:04] Dre Baldwin: I sold a lot of memberships at valleys and a summer of 2005. So again, everybody timeframe, 2005, I went to this event called an exposure camp was like a job fair for athletes. You go there, you paid.
[00:05:14] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: paid him, you go to
[00:05:16] Dre Baldwin: You pay and it's basically a casting call. So a bunch of people who all think they're good enough to play pro, same thing I did, we all show up and we all basically play ball for two days, trying to impress somebody.
[00:05:25] Dre Baldwin: And the audience are people who can help you agents, scouts, coaches, uh, owners from teams all over the world. They come to these events to find people like us, but not everybody's going to get a job. So I went to that event, play pretty well. I leveraged my performance there. I didn't get signed on the spot, but I leveraged that performance into finding me an agent and agent is basically the go between, between the job and the person who wants the job that was me and my agent helped me get my first job.
[00:05:50] Dre Baldwin: So I got my first playing job playing professionally and a late summer, 2005 and countless Lithuania. So that started what became an almost 10 year long professional basketball. career. So that's how I got started in Pro Bowl.
[00:06:04] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah. I mean, I'm so glad that you gave that story exactly the way that you did. You gave it exactly how I wanted you to, because I wanted the listener to hear all of the roadblocks. You never once said. Someone saw me play and gave me a full ride offer invitation. Like literally nothing ever period, which is so relatable to entrepreneurs.
[00:06:28] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: And I know that, you know, this, I know this, but the listener might have heard your bio and been like, Oh, dude, play professional ball. Of course, he's mentally tough and high level and, you know, naturally gifted and all the things, right. What would you say to that?
[00:06:44] Dre Baldwin: Well, a lot of people assume that right. And I don't always, I don't always correct them. So sometimes I just got them thinking
[00:06:50] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Hey, that's all right.
[00:06:52] Dre Baldwin: depending on who I'm talking to, depending on how much time we have, right. Cause now I had to explain all this, but yeah, you're absolutely right. That when I tell people, Hey, well, my background as an athlete, they just assume all these things.
[00:07:03] Dre Baldwin: They assume, Oh, well, of course you have talent. Of course you have always been the person who was selected. Of course, you've always been a person who was chosen. You don't know anything about. Not being chosen, having to work your way up, having to go create an opportunity because our vision of a professional athlete is, I mean, which is true is these people who are in the top one or 2 percent of the thing that they do.
[00:07:23] Dre Baldwin: And it's not because we just worked our way into it. You have to have a certain amount of. You got to hit a certain genetic lottery to be a professional athlete. I mean, that's just the truth that a lot of athletes don't like talking about that because it kind of diminishes their superhero status. But you have to have a, you have to hit the genetic lottery in a way.
[00:07:40] Dre Baldwin: I'm six feet, four inches tall. My dad's like five, eight. My mom's like five, seven. All right. I just got, I got lucky. All right. Had I been their height, we wouldn't be having this conversation. At least not on with this frame. Right. So that's part of the deal. So yes, people do make that assumption, but then once they hear about.
[00:07:55] Dre Baldwin: The background, then they say they get a whole different perspective. So you're right about
[00:07:59] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah, and I want to give just a smidge more context here because I think this piece here is going to launch us into a lot of the things that you teach people on a regular basis, but now knowing their back, your backdrop, knowing that like, okay, my story actually lines up to yours quite a bit, I knew I wasn't going to play D one and so I actually stopped playing in high school because I could foresee not playing D one and not playing professionally and going, well, if I'm not going to make money doing this, I want to stop now and start, you Making money.
[00:08:25] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: So I'm at Foot Locker selling sneakers too, and slinging 2005 about the same timeline
[00:08:29] Dre Baldwin: we were colleagues.
[00:08:30] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: I was gonna say, look, I'm six, four, my mom's five, seven, and my dad's five, nine. So look, I don't know if we're the same human or not, but here's what I'm saying.
[00:08:38] Dre Baldwin: We got to do a DNA test.
[00:08:41] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: and the ones that aren't watching, that'll be funnier later when you look us up online. Um, the, the opportunity here for the listener. Hearing your story and just like 10 seconds of mine and how it's like yours is that single mom family, I had to create the opportunity. I chose no basketball, but business instead because I had been making money on my own since I was 13.
[00:09:02] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: So what, what do you say for the guy listening right now? Who's like, okay, I hear you. I hear the truth in both of your stories, but how does that apply to me? What do I do with that?
[00:09:14] Dre Baldwin: That's a great question. Well, the first thing I would, of course, get more context from that person, but being, I don't know who that person is. Is they had to decide where they want to go. What's their outcome? Because it's an interesting thing. You said their chest because and you said you knew you weren't going to make money playing basketball.
[00:09:30] Dre Baldwin: So you decided to let's put that aside. I'm sure you still maybe played at the rec center at the playground, but are you watch the games? But you knew you weren't going to dedicate your life to it because you wanted to do something that made you money, but you knew your goal was to make money. And if it wasn't going to be through basketball, let's find a way that it is going to be, let me find the right vehicle.
[00:09:48] Dre Baldwin: So in, uh, in our space, I had this thing called the 12 work on your game commandments. Don't ask me to name all 12 cause I don't know them all top of my head, but one of them is the right vehicle. You have to be in the right vehicle to get to where you want to go. And I find that a lot of people, especially in the sports world, and I mean, it's your shows.
[00:10:05] Dre Baldwin: I want to interview you, but I find in the sports world that a lot of athletes, they get really stubborn and kind of kind of pigheaded about that when it's clear to writings on the wall that they're not going to do it in that thing. But they don't know when to give it up. They don't know when to walk away in strength.
[00:10:22] Dre Baldwin: I call it walking away in strength because you didn't, it's not like you just fell on your face and did nothing in basketball. You decided this is not going to be my thing. Let me do something else. But a lot of athletes who I talked to over the years, they didn't know when to do that, even when it was clear that that it wasn't going to go the way they wanted it to go.
[00:10:39] Dre Baldwin: And then when they hear a story like mines, they're like, okay, well, Dre is proof. That even when it doesn't look good, if I keep trying, it'll eventually work. Well, yes, but at the same time, that's not always the case. So there's a fine line between the two.
[00:10:52] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah, and you're a hundred percent right. We're talking about quitting, being a quitter and, and strategically looking at something and going, is this the vehicle that is best for me?
[00:11:02] Dre Baldwin: Correct.
[00:11:03] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: And so how does that person listening right now, maybe they're not considering being a professional athlete any longer, but they're, you know, maybe a year or two into their business and they're really struggling.
[00:11:11] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Those first couple of years are tough. Maybe it's them in a person or two or three on their team. And they're not really profitable yet. And they're wondering like, dang, do I just shelf it and try something new or do I press in and become mentally tough, which we'll get to here shortly. And really make it through this, this piece.
[00:11:29] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Like this is the question that they might have. What would you, what would you say generally, obviously, because you don't know them,
[00:11:34] Dre Baldwin: Yes. That's the million dollar question right there. How do I know when I should keep pressing on this thing that is not currently working? Versus when I should walk away from it and find something else. That is the, that's basically the question of life right there, because we only get one chance at this.
[00:11:48] Dre Baldwin: So the number one thing I would say to someone in that position, especially in the business world is because you don't need genetics to be successful in business. You just need the right strategy, the right.
[00:11:57] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: So something after, for example,
[00:11:59] Dre Baldwin: So where are you getting your information from? Because if your thing is not working, perhaps maybe you just have an inaccurate formula.
[00:12:06] Dre Baldwin: An inaccurate formula just means you think that I need to do ABC, but you actually need to do D, E, F, G, and H. You're just not aware of what you're not aware of, basically unconscious incompetence and you don't know what you don't know. So maybe, you just need to plug into the right person who has the right information and now you plug into what they're saying as opposed to what you thought.
[00:12:26] Dre Baldwin: And now things start to work a little bit better. So sometimes people just have an inaccurate formula of what. They're doing, for example, uh, before I started playing basketball, Chaz, I was playing baseball and I went to baseball practice every day and I did all the stuff I was told to do. I just didn't have any talent for baseball.
[00:12:43] Dre Baldwin: My ceiling was a mediocre high school player. Had I stuck with baseball because I don't want to be a quitter. We wouldn't be having this conversation right now, but because I was smart enough to realize this is not the right vehicle. I knew I wanted to play sports, but baseball was not the vehicle. I chose a different vehicle of basketball and then things started working.
[00:13:00] Dre Baldwin: So sometimes you're just in the wrong place with the wrong formula and the wrong process. And the good news about the world that we live in today in 2024 is that the people who have the right information and the right process. They make themselves available and accessible to tell you that they have the information.
[00:13:17] Dre Baldwin: Whereas back in the nineties, you had to hope that you had the right information. And if you didn't have it, you were out of luck. Now it's all available to you. All you had to do is plug into it.
[00:13:25] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: that's right. That's what they're doing right now. Listening to you, of course. And of course you've got resources online. Like you said, you're an, uh, YouTube OG. Really? Um, and so they, you know, the millions and millions of views that you've gotten online, uh, they, they can be one of those and find a lot of your content on this, but in that, in that moment where I'm deciding, okay, is this the right vehicle or strategy or is it the right, or sorry, vehicle or strategy formula?
[00:13:49] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Um, you know, it's, it's really a, um, Deciding factor of what is my target? We both said the same thing. You said, I want to play sports. That was the aim, the definite, the chief aim. Mine was in that point to make money. Okay. So we just pivoted inside of the same goal. The goal never changed. The vehicle changed or the strategy changed.
[00:14:10] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Um, and so, okay, we've given them plenty of that. Let's talk about that chief aim though, because this is going to get us circled up to mental toughness. You didn't actually quit on baseball because baseball was never the target. Sports was the target. And now I would even say it's bigger than that. Give us what is that bigger aim?
[00:14:28] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Obviously it was smaller back then it was basketball, but really basketball even played into what your bigger aim is now. Tell us what that is and how that all kind of comes together.
[00:14:38] Dre Baldwin: Sure. Bigger aim today.
[00:14:39] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yes. Cause I assume looking backwards now, basketball was the, those, the point then, but now it plays even into what's.
[00:14:48] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: You're doing now, which is probably a bigger level, a bigger picture.
[00:14:51] Dre Baldwin: Yeah, I can actually tell you both. So when I was playing ball, even when I was a kid before I even got around to basketball, my vision for me was that I just, I knew people were going to know my name. I knew people were going to know who I was. It was just a matter of how it was going to happen. So I knew it was going to be through something that could be kind of mass mass marketed.
[00:15:10] Dre Baldwin: And a lot of people could see it all at the same time. Now, again, this is, I was born in 1982. So the, we're talking about the nineties, this, what we're doing now did not exist. This is, there was no such thing, but I knew that this is what I wanted to do. Something where people can know my name, that big aim now today is we want work on your game to become the most ubiquitous term when it comes to personal and professional development.
[00:15:32] Dre Baldwin: So if you make a copy of something, they call that a Xerox. So you take a picture that's called a, uh, what do they call it? Polaroid. All right. He, what you blow your nose is a Kleenex. Uh, we want work on your game to be like, just do it when it comes to personal and professional development. So one of the things that I need to do is make sure that the word gets out to people about who I am, what we do, what this is and why it exists is I would guess most of the people listen to this never heard of me before this conversation.
[00:16:00] Dre Baldwin: So, uh, that's why we're doing this.
[00:16:02] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: exactly. Yeah. You're introducing it. Um, okay. So just to kind of recap for the listener here, you, um, initially it was baseball, then it turned into basketball, then it turned into helping other people. But then even that's formatted now to this huge worldwide. Synonymous household name of when people think personal development, they think work on, I got to work on my game, whatever that game is for them.
[00:16:24] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: And so
[00:16:25] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: that didn't happen overnight. Although the cool part is, is that what you said is way back then, what you wanted truly wasn't even to play sports. Even it was to be known or that you knew already that I'm going to be successful. Right. And if you take my story in reverse, it wasn't that I wanted to make money.
[00:16:41] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Of course I grew up poor. Like, of course I wanted to make money, but. That wasn't like the ultimate chief aim. Truly. It was like, no, I'm going to be successful. People are going to know me or fill in the blank of whatever success looks like. So here we are as young kids thinking the same thing generally, but that's developed over the course of time.
[00:17:00] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: What do you think? Like the one thing that you've done to develop that. That maybe the listener either hasn't yet, or maybe he's in the process or she's in the process of doing, but can keep following along your track here.
[00:17:11] Dre Baldwin: When you say develop that, what are you referring to?
[00:17:13] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: That like transition from one, but like one belief to the next of it, just keeping getting bigger and bigger and
[00:17:19] Dre Baldwin: hmm. Yeah, for me, it's always, I've always been pretty good at reframing and just creating that new vision in my mind. So when I first decided to stop playing basketball, I knew I had to create a new vision in my mind because the vision would always come back to. Uh, something I could do on the basketball court whenever I got no excited or I got an idea, how is this going to translate to doing it on the court?
[00:17:40] Dre Baldwin: But I knew I had to reframe in my mind. Okay, I need to translate that to now. How do I do it at the at a desk? How do I do it in a boardroom? How do I do it on the stage? How do I do it as a business person? So that's that comes back to mental conditioning. And the conditioning is just about what are you telling yourself on a consistent basis?
[00:17:56] Dre Baldwin: And the subconscious mind accepts things based on either emotionalization or repetition or a combination of both. So when you repeat any thought, tell yourself anything over and over again, the subconscious mind eventually accepts it no matter what it is, even if it's not true, you will come to accept it and believe it as a truth.
[00:18:11] Dre Baldwin: And then your subconscious will start to influence. Your habits and your behaviors to act on the things that your subconscious beliefs, because it controls about 85 percent of our thinking. See, we think we're making decisions that we're consciously thinking about them, but most of our choices are made subconsciously and then constantly we come up with a logical justification for them.
[00:18:29] Dre Baldwin: So for me, I understood this concept of mental conditioning and I just had to start rewiring in my brain. Okay, instead of framing everything through the lens of how do I do it physically as an athlete. Even though I still work out every day now is about how do I do it mostly just mentally? How do I do it intellectually as a business person and create my success that way?
[00:18:49] Dre Baldwin: So that was a, it's a process. It doesn't happen overnight, but when you're conscious and intentional about it, then you have the ability to control it.
[00:18:56] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah, let's, let's go deep here for just a quick second. Cause this is juicy stuff. Um, one of your quotes is that you will be at the level of your belief forever. Like, wait a second. Let me say that again. You will be. At the level of your belief forever. Now, what you didn't say is that I'm stuck. What you didn't say is that I can't keep growing, but you said that I'm always going to be at my current level of belief.
[00:19:21] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: And so if I tie that to what you just said about my subconscious, knowing that I'm basically operating every single day without thinking truly 85, 95 percent of my daily actions are subconscious and you're right. Like I just had a little itch on my face. And so I, I picked up and I went like this over my beard.
[00:19:37] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: That was afterwards. I realized it. It was underneath that when this feeling happens, this is the reaction that my hand and brain does. And later my brain recognized it consciously that, Oh, I have an itch and I moved my hand, but it was already happening to your point. And we do this in life, right?
[00:19:53] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Situations happen and we react based on the things that our programming tells us to do. And then logically we're making a justification on our reaction or our, our, our action. Okay. So inside of that, how do I change that? You said I have to. I have to be able to fuel it. Right. But how do I change it so that the level of my belief continues to rise up so that I can continue going upon levels upon levels and growing.
[00:20:17] Dre Baldwin: Sure. So the answer to changing it is, first of all, we have to get conscious about the unconscious because since 85 percent of our thinking is subconscious, meaning we are not consciously aware of the thoughts that are going through our heads and habits that we're even engaging in the way we think, the way we talk, et cetera.
[00:20:33] Dre Baldwin: First thing is we have to start becoming conscious of them, which means we have to do a little bit more mental work. Takes a little bit more effort and thinking is a job. Thinking is a task. People think thinking is just something that happens automatically and it does on one level. But if you want to change your thoughts, you have to be thinking about what you're thinking, and that takes mental work.
[00:20:52] Dre Baldwin: And the fact of the matter is that most people are mentally and physically lazy, and this is the reason why many people don't change because it's easier to not change is leave things as they are than it is to change. And. Put the energy into adjusting your situation. That's just a reflection of the law of inertia.
[00:21:10] Dre Baldwin: So what we need to do is get conscious about how we're thinking, catch ourselves in our thoughts and ask yourself, ask yourself, what am I thinking right now? Why am I reacting this way? Why am I feeling this emotion right now? What led to this feeling? What led to this thought? What led to this behavior?
[00:21:25] Dre Baldwin: And once we start asking ourselves those questions. And sometimes those are tough questions because the answers that we're going to get are going to be based on things that we're so used to doing that even when we're aware of them, we may not even be willing to change them. But if you're aware of them, then at least now you are, you have the opportunity, you have the potential to do something about them, but when you're completely unaware of, you can't do anything about.
[00:21:44] Dre Baldwin: So once we come up, once we become aware, we can decide, do I want to keep this habit? Don't want to alter this habit. Do I need to delete and replace this habit? But again, we have to become conscious of it first, which means we have to put. A lot more mental energy into what is going on up here in our brains so that we have, again, the potential and the ability to do something about it.
[00:22:04] Dre Baldwin: And most people never even get to this point where we are in this conversation, let alone that it gets to the point of changing
[00:22:10] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah. Okay. So let's, let's, and I agree with you a hundred percent. So you gave some really practicals in here, gave some questions, listener, write those down. These are amazing questions, but in essence, what you're saying is you slow down enough to catch yourself and ask yourself, why am I even doing what I'm doing?
[00:22:26] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Okay, so I've slowed down, I've thought about what I'm thinking about, I've questioned why I'm doing what I'm doing now, what do I do with it? Because like you said, questioning it and being aware of it or conscious of it is step one or maybe step two. But the next level of changing comes from?
[00:22:43] Dre Baldwin: internal employee reviews. So I'll explain to you how this works. So anyone, anyone has ever worked in a company, let's say corporation. I never was in any corporation long enough for this to happen. But from what I understand. They do employee reviews, right? Maybe it's every 90 days. Maybe it's every six months.
[00:22:59] Dre Baldwin: Maybe it's once a year, right? You sit down with your supervisor or someone who's higher than you in rank and they go over what you've done on the job, what you can do better, know what you're doing. Great. Do more of, et cetera. We're going to give you a raise your fire, whatever they tell you how you're doing.
[00:23:14] Dre Baldwin: So you need to do internal employee reviews with your habits. And those reviews don't happen every six months or every quarter. They happen every. Every day you need to line up your habits, line up your behaviors, notice them, see what they are, and then ask yourself Either a, this is a good habit. I'm going to keep it and do more of it on purpose.
[00:23:33] Dre Baldwin: B this habit needs to be altered or adjusted. I'm going to change it in these ways so I can get to the outcome I want or C this habit is completely not serving me is taking me backwards because in life there is no neutral. You're either getting better or getting worse. You're building or destroying.
[00:23:47] Dre Baldwin: This habit is fired. It's key card is revoked. I'm calling security is going to export this habit out of the building. You have to make a decision and you have to be clear on it like this in the black and white. In black and white language, because when you're unclear, when we, when we lack clarity on things, what happens is.
[00:24:04] Dre Baldwin: That ambiguity leads us to doing nothing. See, when we're ambiguous on things, we end up doing nothing. We let things stay as they are. And before you know it, a year has gone by five years have gone by. You still have the same goals you had five years ago. You've made no progress on them. Not because you don't have the ability or the motivation or the skill or any of that, the information, the resources, the common things people say, it's simply because you didn't get clear on what needs to stay and what needs to go, what needs to change and what needs to remain as it is when you have clarity, then it's much easier to take action.
[00:24:33] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah. And, and I think the clarity of not only how to get rid of, but you also gave the clarity of. What is it that I want? You didn't say it quite like that, but we've been talking about that this whole time at first define what I want. And then as I'm surveying all of my habits, right? Then I can go, well, does it help me get that?
[00:24:52] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Nope. Out. Does it help me get that? Yes. Keep it. If it doesn't help me keep that, well, Hmm, no, not really. Out, right? Like we can be honest, but if we don't have that guiding, like, what am I, what am I after here, then that's going to be really tough for them. And to that point, the clarity of the target, right?
[00:25:10] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: You said they have the same goals over and over, but they're too vague. They're too general. I want to be successful, Dre, I'm not becoming successful. It's because how I haven't defined it. Right.
[00:25:22] Dre Baldwin: Right. That's right. So a lot of people throw around the term successful. What does that mean? What is successful for you? What denotes success? And each person gets to define their own success, but you have to define it. What is success? And you can have different levels of success. So there's success when you're in the gym, there's success when you're at your computer, there's success when you're with your family.
[00:25:42] Dre Baldwin: So what makes something successful? And since most people are unclear on that, then it's hard to make decisions and it's hard to do anything or do anything different. Because you're not clear on what success is. So you can't look at something to say, yes, no, yes, no, because we don't know where we're going.
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[00:26:47] Dre Baldwin: So
[00:26:50] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: front of you and I want you to tell me what you think really for the benefit of the listener. Um, the, the phrase that you used eventually, does it serve me in essence, which is a phrase that I've used for a long, long time. And, uh, so I agree with you. I look at things as just, we've just discussed what's my target.
[00:27:07] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Does this serve me? If it doesn't, I don't do it. If it does, I'm like a hundred down. Focused, absolutely do it. No quitting that type of thing. Um, and so for this example, um, recently in the last probably year, maybe not quite, I decided that sugar no longer served me of any kind. And, and so I, I remember posting them on Facebook, maybe.
[00:27:30] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Nine or 10 months ago about how I had decided that sugar doesn't serve me. And, and there was a gal who made a comment about basically everything in moderation and like, you know, I, she gets joy from eating whatever that was, that she really liked cake or whatever. And it brought her joy. That's how it served her.
[00:27:46] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: And, uh, so I want to know your thoughts on that, but before I ask you your thoughts on that, I actually thought the same thing before she said it before I posted it, before I had made the decision, I thought I really liked chocolate chip cookies. I mean, Dre still today. Even though I haven't eaten them in almost a year. I think chocolate chip cookies are great. One of my favorite things to consume. If the, if the, if the ingredients don't serve me, then it was an easy like, oh, this makes sense. It doesn't, it's out. Boom. And then the question I followed it with was, if it brings, if it serves me by bringing joy, and that's why I'm going to keep it, is it the only area that I'm getting joy?
[00:28:26] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Like, do I have to get joy here? Because I know it doesn't serve me, but I'm keeping it around in that example for her, because it. Brings me joy. I was like, no, no, no, I can't. I've joined so many other areas. I don't need this joy. It's out Tell me your thoughts on that whole thing. I'd be curious
[00:28:43] Dre Baldwin: the first thing is, I'm not a fan of the phrase, everything in moderation. Uh, number one, uh, I'm not a fan of that
[00:28:49] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: pretty pretty vanilla
[00:28:51] Dre Baldwin: Yes, exactly. And I, I tell, I've told my audiences vanilla only works in ice cream and it was one other thing. Maybe cake frosting and speaking of sugar. So I'm not, I'm not a big fan of everything in moderation.
[00:29:03] Dre Baldwin: I don't like when I even hear people say that it just sounds like average. This is reeks of averageness being in the middle.
[00:29:09] Dre Baldwin: Yeah, just joining the masses, everything in moderation. So no, I don't, I don't even like that for you. So as far as the not wanting, not having the sugar, that's very interesting. I couldn't live like that cause I got sugar on my desk right here.
[00:29:22] Dre Baldwin: So I had to throw everything away and this includes fruit.
[00:29:26] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: not fruit
[00:29:27] Dre Baldwin: Okay. So, um, chemical sugar. Okay. Gotcha. All right. So I, first of all, I like the fact that you made a decision and it's clear decision. And it's, there's no ambiguity with it because all you got to do is read the labels. Okay. So you can't eat the Snickers bar I had two days ago.
[00:29:44] Dre Baldwin: You can't eat the Skittles I had yesterday. You can't eat the, whatever this is on my, my meal delivery service. Give me a little snack. I know it's sugar in there. So you couldn't eat that. You can't drink a Gatorade. All right. No soda. All right. So all the sugars, all those sugars, you know, yes or no, it's a clear binary.
[00:30:02] Dre Baldwin: Yes or no. And that kind of clarity. As far as life goes, a lot of people don't have it and when they have that, when you have that clarity, it's much easier just to make decisions. You could do things a lot faster. You can be a lot more decisive. There's a whole lot less ambiguity is a lot less. Indecision in life, and then you can move forward on whatever you want to move forward on much more easily.
[00:30:24] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Um, I want to give the listener an encouragement because you actually did it, you know, subconsciously there, even by saying that you still, you know, had a Snickers bar and stuff like that, just in order to be meant to tough. You don't have to get rid of sugar. You don't have to fill in the blank.
[00:30:39] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: You don't have to do anything, but what you do have to do is whatever is right to get wherever you want to go. And so once you define that, then it's like. Do you want it or do you not want it? Because what I have found is that people say that they want something, but then they're not willing to actually do it.
[00:30:55] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Talk to, talk to the crowd just for a half second on, you know, on that. That's a whole can. I get it. But like, just give us your thoughts.
[00:31:02] Dre Baldwin: right. Yeah, when it comes to people saying that they want things, I mean, all of us want a whole lot of things. The, excuse me, the biggest challenge, Chaz, is are we willing to pay whatever the price is to get it? So the first thing we need to do once we decide we want something, because there's nothing wrong wanting things.
[00:31:18] Dre Baldwin: You can want everything that you want. The next thing you need to do is figure out what does it cost to get it? And cost can be literal like financially, but it also can be, what do I have to give? I want to lose 20 pounds. So how often do I have to go to the gym? How many miles do I have to run? How many bottles of water do I have to drink?
[00:31:35] Dre Baldwin: How many burpees do I have to do? Right? So you need to know what the cost is and then decide, am I willing to pay this cost or am I not willing to pay this cost? And that's fine. And if you decide you don't want to pay the cost and that's fine, you can walk away. And do something different, but we need to find out what that cost is so that we can in our minds decide what we are going to move forward with and what we're not going to move forward with.
[00:31:57] Dre Baldwin: Because as humans, we have some limitations. We can only do one thing at a time. We can only be in one physical place at a time. And we all are. Literally on the clock, because we all going to reach a point called death where we don't have any more time to do anything else. So we have to decide what we are going to do, what the priorities are.
[00:32:12] Dre Baldwin: Hopefully we can get as much in as we can in the time that we have, but we have to decide what are we doing and what are we not doing and not have so many things. Kind of sitting in the mental parking lot of, I want to do that. I'll eventually get to it, but there's no time on it. And that's what tragically happens to a lot of us because we have all these things that we want to do, but we never know, get urgent and serious about actually getting to it.
[00:32:34] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah. Yeah. That clarity PC gave to us a few minutes ago is a big part of that because if they're drifting as Napoleon Hill calls it and outwitting the devil, if they're drifting, then there's no clarity. And so then therefore they're just going to talk about the things that they quote unquote want, but they don't actually really want them because they're just kind of drifting through life.
[00:32:51] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: They don't actually. Paying any attention to what they're doing or what their, what their thoughts are. Even going back to our earlier conversation, um, you've said publicly that you were just foolish enough to believe that you could fill in the blank, be successful, play pro ball. Like there's been a lot of things that you've been able to accomplish even at a young age.
[00:33:07] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: And so what's that foolishness enough to believe feeling or belief that you have looking back?
[00:33:13] Dre Baldwin: Well, looking back, I wasn't even seeing it that way. Is something I can phrase it that way now, because when I know whenever I'm telling the story, like, you know, one year high school walked on and play in college at D3 and then hustle my way into playing pro ball, it sounds a lot more heroic than it felt, I guess the best way to describe it, because when you're in the midst of it, you're not thinking about, Oh, this is going to be an amazing story because I'm going to make it.
[00:33:39] Dre Baldwin: And then 20 years later, I'll be telling the story on a podcast. I wasn't thinking that way. I was just thinking, uh, what's the next thing that needs to happen? What needs to be true in order for me to take the next step? And that's just the way I would thought what would, what would need to be true for me to play pro ball while somebody has assigned me.
[00:33:54] Dre Baldwin: Well, if I'm going to play overseas, I've never even been out of the country. How am I going to play overseas? They don't know me. Well, an agent, they know the agent, so I need to get an agent, but no agents are trying to sign me. So how do I get an agent? They want to sign me. Well, I need some proof that I can play against pro level players.
[00:34:09] Dre Baldwin: I'll play D three. So that's not proof. So I got to go to this exposure camp. So let me play against these guys and that can be proof. So then when I went to the exposure camp, okay, now I can go call agents. Now I have something to show them. So all I was doing was just deconstructing and what we, what we call that now, I call it the reverse roadmap.
[00:34:25] Dre Baldwin: So we just create that roadmap in reverse for what would need to be true in order for this to happen, this to happen, this to happen. And I just worked backwards through those steps of what I needed to do. So I knew I could. And I just needed to prove it somewhere that mattered in front of people who matter and I needed some evidence.
[00:34:42] Dre Baldwin: I need the footage. So that was, it was just the process that I had to go through, but I wasn't looking at it as I'm dumb enough to keep trying because in that myopic world. You run into a whole bunch of players who played D3 and small colleges and Jukos and didn't really play college ball at all, but they all think they can play pro ball.
[00:34:59] Dre Baldwin: So we were all at that exposure camp. So when you're in that world, it doesn't seem that outlandish because you're around a bunch of people who are all thinking the same thing. And when you get into the bigger world and you're outside of that space, then it seems more. Uh, more incredulous, I guess, for lack of a better term, simply because you're around a bunch of people who don't think that way.
[00:35:18] Dre Baldwin: But at the time, I mean, I was young. I had enough time to go and try stuff, right? If I've been 35 trying it, it'd been a different story than if I was 22 trying it, but again, I was never looking at it as I was dumb enough to keep trying. But now I can say that. Now that now I'm looking back on the story now, somebody who tried the same things as and didn't succeed, they probably wouldn't use that language.
[00:35:40] Dre Baldwin: Right? And one of the things that I tell people all the time is that. Cause I get, I would get this question often, especially from athletes, and I'm sure you get it also from entrepreneurs. Now, entrepreneurship is a little bit different from sports in that you can be an entrepreneur in your entire life.
[00:35:55] Dre Baldwin: You can be an entrepreneur for 50 years. Sports career windows are extremely small. You only have this much time to be an athlete. Like if I decided I want to play basketball right now, it's too late because I don't have a physicality to do it. So when it comes to the sports world, I would get people asking me, well, Dre, how do I know whether I should keep going or if I should quit?
[00:36:15] Dre Baldwin: And there is no black and white answer to that question in anything. There's no black and white. If this is happening, quit. If this is happening, keep going. The real answer is we won't know till we get to the end of the story. And the whole thing with me and given my background, the reason why I can tell this story now, and it is a great story, great origin story and background story is because I ended up being successful and I ended up quote unquote, making it as an athlete, so the story sounds great, but somebody who had the same background who didn't.
[00:36:45] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: tell this
[00:36:46] Dre Baldwin: They're not going to tell the story. They have to, their story has to be a little bit different and they have to figure out a different way to talk about it because it doesn't end the exact same way. So we don't know till we get to the end of the story, whether you were right or wrong.
[00:36:57] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah. And I love that you've positioned it as a story because even for that person who maybe did have the exact same circumstances but then didn't play final, you know, pro ball and the final, uh, storyline there is that, is that truly the end of their story?
[00:37:13] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: We both know no, that's that's absolutely not the end of the story. It wasn't the end of your story That's just a segment of your story that you can leverage now And so for that other person who might be listening literally it was like I tried to play that's me, you know The cool thing is is that the story's not done and you can still leverage How I pressed and pushed and tried to play a ball and I and it didn't work But I, then the rest of the story, you know, um, that's the beauty of it is that we control the rest of the story, even still today, even though like quote unquote, Dre, you've made it and now you're helping other people make it.
[00:37:47] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: You're still today writing your story. And the Dre at 50 is going to look back and be like, dude. I was on this crazy podcast with this other guy, like the white version of me, you know, and we talked back and forth and it was like this incredible conversation, but like, that was like 30 years ago, man. And maybe we're on a beach together or something.
[00:38:04] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: You know what I mean? So
[00:38:05] Dre Baldwin: Right.
[00:38:06] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: we can still write the story from here. And so that's the encouragement to the listener. Um, you, you just to kind of fill in some gaps here for the listener, you've, you've done four Ted talks, but you've applied like 30 something times, you know, we can keep going down the list, right.
[00:38:21] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: All the things that you maybe, like, hit the ceiling on and then press through. So I think that there's like a commonality here. Give us something that you pressed up against that you actually did pivot away from outside of baseball.
[00:38:33] Dre Baldwin: Outside of baseball, man. Well, uh, someone was asking me this the other day, but I've probably put out. For every product that I put out that did pretty well, like did make sales. I probably got 20 that did not, didn't make any sales, maybe zero, maybe only a handful, maybe I put it out and said, all right, this product actually, when I'm explaining it to the public, doesn't sound as good as it sounded in my head.
[00:38:54] Dre Baldwin: So I've had plenty of those. I remember. There was a time when I was going to sell, uh, autographed photos of myself. Nobody bought any. Yeah. And this is right around the time when no, the social media and all that was starting to become a thing. So selling a picture of yourself, I guess, wasn't that good of a deal, or maybe I'm just not that as famous as I thought I was.
[00:39:19] Dre Baldwin: So yeah, that, that was one. But as far as, uh, products again, I've created so many, especially back in the basketball space. I created a bunch and some of them did really well. And they basically made up for the rest of them is 80, 20 principles. So 20 percent of the products made up for the 80 percent that didn't do
[00:39:36] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah, I, I, so glad that you put that in there because obviously, you know, with, with the story that you've given so far, they might be wondering, well, you know, it's just a golden glove, you know, everything he touches, he, he wins that, but we both know that that's not true either. And so I thank you for that for, for some kicks and giggles here.
[00:39:52] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Like you've got one video from back in the day. I don't know the exact date, but it's got over a million views. There's absolutely no talking. It's just you running drills. And millions of people have seen this and, and hundreds and hundreds, maybe even a couple thousand comments. I can't remember exactly off the top of my head, but did you ever think that would happen?
[00:40:11] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Like that would be maybe one of your ones that clicked and helped bring you to where you are.
[00:40:17] Dre Baldwin: You mean the video
[00:40:18] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: video itself video period? Like when you were thinking like, all right, let me set up the camera. We're going to run some drills. Like what were you in the moment thinking? And then now what do you think looking back on that?
[00:40:28] Dre Baldwin: So I think I got a couple of videos that are at that level. Those I pretty much knew once I saw how they started to go. So when I got on YouTube with the basketball stuff, I could see by the way the audience was responding like, okay, I'll just keep doing this, but I never had a video go like viral. Those videos got to a million views over years, many years of being viewed.
[00:40:49] Dre Baldwin: I had a piece of content I was looking through my old stuff just the other day. So it's funny that you mentioned this Chaz. I tell people I got like 20, 000 pieces of content out there. I'm over 20, 000 when it comes to going viral. I've never gone viral, nothing. So only thing is I put out 20, 000 pieces of content.
[00:41:04] Dre Baldwin: Now you just multiply that by a few eyeballs, each one, and then you have a name and then you can Google yourself and there's a bunch of results I knew. sometimes when I made videos that this one is going to be good, this one is going to pop off.
[00:41:19] Dre Baldwin: A lot of people are going to see it. But at the same time, the ones for which I was right, I thought that about 10 different videos, one out of 10, it actually did it right. So there are times I put out a video. I'm like, this is going to be amazing. People are going to love this. And it didn't really do anything might get 500 views in it.
[00:41:35] Dre Baldwin: All right. And then I'll put out something and I'm like, I don't even like this that much. I don't even think this is that good. I might not even put this out. Then I put it out and the audience loves it. So you never really know.
[00:41:43] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah. Your big project that you're working on now, you've already made it clear. It's work on your game becoming synonymous with personal development. I believe you have it tattooed on your arm as well. Like you want to talk about some deep belief, right? What is work on your game? Make, you know, make that clear to the listener.
[00:42:03] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: How can they engage with you? And, and we'll put all of this in the show notes too. I'm not just like, Hey, tell me about it. I want you to like really walk me through. I think we've done a pretty good job already in the show of walking through what they might experience with working with you, but give us just a little bit more, what is work on the game and why would an entrepreneur or really anybody for that matter, want to engage with your product to be able to develop themselves.
[00:42:25] Dre Baldwin: Well, thank you for the question. So working on your game is where we take the tools to help athletes get to the top 1 percent of the sporting world. And we translate those tools over to the. Business world and to everyday life to help professionals perform at their highest level do so consistently, and of course, make more money in your business.
[00:42:42] Dre Baldwin: That is literally what we do here at working your game. And it started with that framework. It started with mindset. That's where it began. So the discipline, confidence, mental toughness, personal initiative. That's the first piece of what we do. Then it moves into the strategy. We talked about the road map in reverse.
[00:42:56] Dre Baldwin: Then we move into the system. How do we do the same things the same way every time? In other words, how do we create that consistency of outcome? Yeah. And then the last piece is the accountability. How do we make sure that everything is working as it's supposed to be? And how do we make sure everyone is working as they are supposed to?
[00:43:10] Dre Baldwin: So those are our four pieces, mindset, strategy, systems, and accountability.
[00:43:15] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: I love it. And who's a good fit for work on. I mean, you want to make it synonymous. So I get it. It's everybody, but right now someone's listening, call them out
[00:43:23] Dre Baldwin: Uh, the good fit is the ambitious person, person who is ambitious. You have big goals. You have big things that you want to achieve. You're not okay with just being okay. You're not okay with just being amongst the masses, being amongst the group and what you do. And not only are you ambitious, but you have a sense of urgency about reaching that ambition.
[00:43:41] Dre Baldwin: And you appreciate someone who's just a straight shooter where you can just get to the point, talk about where you're at, where you want to go, what you feel like might be in your way. And you just want to make sure that you have crystal clarity as to where you're at, what you need to do next. And you know exactly what those next steps are that you need to take.
[00:43:58] Dre Baldwin: That's really what I like to give people. And when I'm having my conversations with people who I work with, those are the things they most. Point out, like, I appreciate that. Now I have clarity and I came here confused and not knowing, but now I'm clear on what I need to do next. And next time we talk, I have those taken care of.
[00:44:12] Dre Baldwin: We can get onto the next thing. So I'm looking for that ambitious person who also has the urgency and they have the skills. They have the tools. It's just that they need clarity on. What to do, how to do it, when and where to do it.
[00:44:24] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah, I just want to put a little plug in here. Cause we we've just met here today, but I just, I just think so highly of you already. And there was a lot of people that helped. Listeners, entrepreneurs, me, you, whatever, get clear. And I love that. That's a huge part of what you do, but I think you displayed an amazing, um, show here today of what looks like what it looks like after clarity, because it can't, you can't just be like, Hey, I want to work with you, Dre.
[00:44:51] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: And you got me clear and that's cool, but then like, we'll see you later. There's multiple steps after that you outlined them. And that's what I actually appreciate about you. The most is in your story. It wasn't just the maybe naive or foolish belief. Yes. It wasn't just the mental toughness to go. You know what?
[00:45:08] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: I'm going to freaking stick to it. It wasn't just the, you know, clarity on this is exactly what I want. Here's what I'm going to go do. It was the do wing. It was the deciding and then the doing, um, and of course you gotta, you gotta, you gotta move that and, and, and modify that as you go. And as you change, but you gave plenty of examples of how you made it to the pros or how you've been successful in business through all those things and then execution.
[00:45:33] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Um, and so I, that's what I just appreciate you about. You didn't, you didn't toot your own horn in that way enough. I felt like, and so I wanted to do it for you. Um, Dray, I got one last question here for you, brother. If you had the opportunity just to roll back the clock, you got the younger Dray in front of you, you tap him on the shoulder and you whisper in his ear.
[00:45:51] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: What do you tell him?
[00:45:51] Dre Baldwin: Starting investing in yourself as early as possible. That's the number one thing that I would tell, I would tell my, will tell my children that. And that's what I would tell my younger self. Investing yourself as early as possible in, in forms of the material you're taking in. Of course, you can financially invest in yourself and getting around the right people.
[00:46:10] Dre Baldwin: One, two and three.
[00:46:11] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah. Love that. The impact has not only been great for you, but I can second those things. That's what I'm currently doing with my children and what I would absolutely do with myself. Um, the next step for somebody to find you, give us a quick spot on how they can engage with you or find you online.
[00:46:27] Dre Baldwin: The best place to find me online outside of social media is work on your game at university. com. That's what we do. That's where all of our focus and attention is right now. That's where we do all our coaching, our programs, et cetera. As far as social media, I'm on every single platform. I'm. Public on every platform.
[00:46:44] Dre Baldwin: So I'm very easy. I'm hard not to find. So I'm very easy to find, uh, probably most active on Instagram at Dre Baldwin, but we publish on every platform at least six, seven, eight times a day. So, like I said, I'm hard to not find, just whip me up on whatever your favorite platform is. I'm there,
[00:46:59] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: Yeah, I love it. Dre, you're an incredible, uh, not only human, but a mind that's, uh, now impacting others by the thousands or maybe even millions at this point. So congratulations to you and your success. Thank you for being with us for just a short time, pouring into those that we may never even know by name.
[00:47:15] chaz-wolfe_1_02-28-2024_090840: That's how I define a King. So thanks for being here, brother. Appreciate
[00:47:17] Dre Baldwin: you sharing your platform. Thank you for the opportunity.
[00:47:20] Chaz Wolfe: Thank you for listening to Gathering the Kings today. I hope that you were able to pull out a few nuggets to go apply into your business right away. More importantly, though, I hope that you're realizing that it takes more to be successful than just being by yourself, doing it all on your own, carrying the weight all by yourself.
[00:47:38] Chaz Wolfe: What I have realized, not only in my own journey from multiple businesses and multiple different industries, and now interviewing to over 200 or 300, Other very successful seven, eight and nine figure business owners is that it's tough to do it alone. And so gathering the Kings exists to Bring together successful entrepreneurs.
[00:47:58] Chaz Wolfe: In fact, we are putting together 1, 000 Kings specifically. Who are grateful, but not done. We're intentionally assembling Kings who fight tooth and nail for their business, family, and communities. And here's what we believe that in the pursuit of excellence in those areas. That it ignites within us the responsibility to govern power and forge a lasting legacy.
[00:48:23] Chaz Wolfe: So if that relates in and resonates with you, and you know, that you need people around you, sharp, qualified, other very successful business owners. I want you to go to gatheringthekings. com. I want you to take a look at what we're doing and see if it makes sense for you to be part of our pursuit to 1000 Kings talk soon.

Host Chaz Wolfe sits down with Dre Baldwin, a former professional basketball player turned entrepreneur, author, and keynote speaker. Dre shares his journey from the basketball courts to the boardroom, revealing how his "Work On Your Game" philosophy has shaped his success in both sports and business.

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