446 | Time For a Booze Vacation?

Mar 13

[00:00:38] Chaz Wolfe: What's up everybody? I'm Chaz Wolf gathering the King's . Coming back to you here today with, of course, another king on the stage. Clifford. Stephan, welcome to the King Stage, my brother. How we doing?

[00:00:48] Clifford Stephan doing great. Thanks so much for having me, Chaz. I really appreciate it.

[00:00:51] Chaz Wolfe: Of course. Well, you're a serial entrepreneur.

[00:00:53] Yeah, I've had a compensation consulting company based in the Bay Area, Silicon Valley, designing employee and executive pay plans for a lot of pre IPO tech and private companies in Silicon Valley and California for the last 20 years. I. Work with a lot of enterprise companies as well on a project basis, , a little bit of real estate.

Recently a covid passion project, I've founded and launched a booze vacation, a men's health and wellness business in earnest and. It's been really awesome, finding my passion and my value and , it's been a fun ride,

[00:01:23] Chaz Wolfe: just real quick here, you said booze vacation. I hope the listener caught that for a second there. Give us just like a quick synopsis Are we vacationing with booze? Are we getting away from booze? Give us the clarity here.

[00:01:35] Clifford Stephan: booze vacation at a high level is, just letting my peers know that taking an extended break from alcohol is, what I've found to be the key to happiness in the Fountain of Youth.

Take a step back a little bit about myself started drinking in high school like a lot of us do in high school and college. You get indoc into that. Played water polo, soccer, tennis, real social, real extroverted, and followed it all along the way and then got into corporate America.

And I'm in human resources and it's everywhere. I'm super, extroverted and it's always along for the ride. But I was also a nutrition nut. I had a degree in nutritional science and a health nut. And so. Yeah, I definitely started looking and feeling my age in late thirties, early forties, and so I wasn't looking for it, but I begrudgingly took a one year break from alcohol and, you know, to kind of, you know, deflect some of the I might get from my buddies.

I came up with, Hey, I'm on a booze vacation, and, it made 'em laugh. It gave him a chuckle and got him off my back and so that was the birth of it. And so yeah, just trying to come up with a term that's not so lame and. defensive

the Problem with my peer groups is I think there's such a strong association with fun friends, events, and a reward system and it really becomes a part of your identity. And so guys might cut back a little bit or maybe take off dry January or something like that, but they're never really able toreally get back to a hundred percent.

A lot of guys are stuck at 60, 70% with bad sleep and bad hormones and a lot of negative feedback loops they get stuck in, especially around sugar intake and. So ultimately it's really a health 1, 1 0 1 play and just a fun, aspirational way in health movement to really help guys restore their health.

'cause unfortunately, Pred disease starts showing up in your thirties with belly fat and high blood pressure and maybe a couple prescriptions and forties and fifties as become more chronic disease states and. So a lot of my peers are super high performing, are doing great in their business, but might not be looking at their health and wellness.

And so it could be super tricky to thread that needle if, even if you are working out and having a kale salad with regular alcohol use. That's just kind of what we signed up for as far as our physiology and it being everywhere and tolerance and age and wear and tear. So it's a pretty predictive model that we're not cool with guys getting bad results and bad outcomes in their families. And so we're being the jerk talking shit about it and having some fun with it.

[00:03:49] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah. Well, and I wanna actually encourage, you, but also the listener that I've seen more in the last six months, content-wise on social media around, I'm just. I'm over alcohol and this language of, I'm, I think people are just becoming more conscious of the fact that it is basically poison or it is directly poisoned, really?

and then it's associated like dot, dot down the road to, well, if it's that, what are the effects on me? and then how, is it worth it? So I think a lot of people actually. Starting to ask these types of questions, or at least from what I can see, personally, I've asked the question, does this serve me alcohol?

But I also apply it to pretty much everything in my life. And I've just become more and more obsessive about this question, in my life. And so I've always asked the question, does this serve me? And the result I've always gotten specifically around alcohol is at some point I'm gonna lose control at whether that's two drinks or 20 drinks.

Why would I want any of this thing that's gonna take my control if my success is up to me? Why would I not want control of that? And so that's always felt like a pretty easy decision to me. But you're right, there's a lot of like culture and peer pressure. Talk about this a little bit because obviously not only did you go through it, you created the name to get your buddies off in a fun way, but now you're helping other men do this This is a real thing to be able to step away from and not feel like shunned. Talk about this a little bit.

[00:05:19] Clifford Stephan: And just to quickly react to your story, I mean, you're so enlightened, Chaz, like, when it comes to me and my peers, like this is not our playbook again. I'm 51, , and I think the reality is with my peer groups and I travel a lot, I, it's just super ingrained in our society and, you've been a football game, you know the drill.

But yeah, I mean, as far as the impact it's been really game changing and, I had some really profound effects to my health and performance and my sleep and my, just my mindset and my body transformation as far as ideal weight. And so I started. telling my buddies, and I wasn't even telling them to take a break.

I was just saying, Hey, I listened to this four hour audible book. It was super entertaining. It really was eyeopening. And it, and it did inspire me to take a break. It's called Alcohol Lied to Me, and it was really good. And like my buddies were like, Hey, oh, whoa. Like they, they couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't, they didn't even wanna have the conversation , and again, these are buddies I've known for decades and really, trust and like me And, you know, at the end of the day it's a little bit of monkey see, monkey do. And when guys aren't talking about it in meaningful ways, if they're not trying it and if they're not seeing the examples of their buddies doing it and having just as much fun and crushing it with their business and.

Social life, et cetera. It just it's just this vacuum and it's a predictive model and I'm starting to see a lot of bad things precipitating. And again, these are top performers that are, stud athletes, NCA water polo champions, like all kinds of like really high performing dudes that I.

Just over time it eeks away at 'em. So I was able, initially to get a couple buddies to do it and, badger 'em into doing it. And they just had, very similar experiences and found it really compelling and, ultimately it's not about demonizing alcohol or anything like that.

I think it's just the current. Climate doesn't really provide guys with much of a choice. It's like, hey, you can cut back or you can maybe take a month off. The science states, most guys, it's gonna take three to six months minimum just to get their neural circuitry back to factory settings so their nor their normal day to day, even if they're not drinking every day, just having a few drinks a week is higher stress, higher anxiety, lower mood, and lack of impulse control.

And that could take three to six months to even get back to, normal. That's just one thing. It's not even testosterone or your sleep. And so what happens is guys don't really wind up getting a choice, and so they just, other than which brands they drink. And so it, it is just a really predictive model with.

Really bad outcomes. Ultimately what happens is guys wind up asking the wrong person because they're stuck at 60, 70% and that's what they're used to. And so once you get 'em to a hundred percent, they're gonna be like, oh, this is killer.

I'm loving it. I'm crushing it. I've stacked up all these wins. I've no intention of giving these up. And I want to keep rocking this vacation. But you know, again, if you don't take that long enough break to give yourself a long enough runway to give your body mind and time to heal and take that extra time, money, and energy to start, chipping away at these things, you're not really getting a choice.

We're all about giving the guys most amount of choice. And again, it's not sobriety, it's not finger pointy. A lot of my peers aren't looking for sobriety,

[00:08:19] Chaz Wolfe: It's interesting. It's a paradox actually. People feel this similar way when it comes to like their time or their calendar. When I talk to an entrepreneur who doesn't time block or doesn't run their life on a calendar, it's because, I wanna do my own thing, right? I wanna be free, I wanna be flexible, but that person is a slave to something else, as opposed to, I input on my calendar what it is that I wanna do, what's important for me.

And so I'm not a slave to the calendar. I'm a slave To me that built the calendar, that person is here, they're blown and toted, left and right because they didn't prepare ahead of time. And so I'm hearing you , say the same thing about alcohol. It's like actually. If you can construct an environment that gives you structure, I guess it actually gives you more freedom.

So through structure or through maybe some intentionality is really probably a better word, rather than structure, you actually have more freedom. Talk about this a little bit because there's guys listening right now going, wait a second, you're telling me that by following your rules, I'm gonna have more freedom.

That doesn't sound like autonomy to me, Clifford,

[00:09:21] Clifford stephan: Yeah. and that's the beauty of it, you know, obviously. So again, I'm real negative about cutting back in one month breaks me and my buddies did 'em all the time. They never worked, we were, dry January and then we're doubling down on Super Bowl Sunday. So, that's the beauty and the feature of boo's vacation.

So a lot of the work is just getting guys to understand what's really going on and how deep that, that rat hole is when it comes to how alcohol affects you. And once guys get a little bit of awareness and get clued in a little bit, no, but no self-respecting man would be. Cool with all that nonsense.

It's just, like I said, it's like it's tanking testosterone,it's aging you, it's stressing you out. It's just all these negative things and so again, it's really, it's a gamified kind of lifestyle experiment where you are. I. you know why you're doing it.

You're not cool with it. You don't have to make any, you don't have to make any lifetime declarations, but you're like, Hey, I need to test this out. I really like it. it's everywhere and I need to see how this goes. And I, that's kinda the problem with the shorter breaks.

they're very defensive. You're on your heels. You're not really totally convinced and your buddies are gonna smell blood in the water, and they're gonna be like, dude, come on. Just have a beer. What the hell's wrong with you? And so, again, it's really about playing offense. You're taking these longer breaks.

They're like, wow, you're taking a six month break. You're taking a year break. That's crazy. So some quick blocking and tackling around, taking the break and you know what to say and, a bunch of killer non-alcoholic beers and a bunch of different stuff you could do to make it easy.

But you know, it's, yeah, it's just a whole different game. And what, what ultimately happens by making that decision that, hey, I'm taking a boost vacation. you're making one decision instead of a hundreds or even thousands of micro decisions around alcohol. And it's there's so much, there's so much bandwidth and nonsensical capacity in your brain of thinking of again, just your physiology.

You go big on the weekend and then you have all your stuff to take care of during the work week. And you're at, you're dragging ass. You're at 50%. You feel like you look and feel like crap and you're lamenting about the weekend or you're wondering when the weekend's coming along.

So you're never present. You're never in the zone. Why would you wanna be present when you look and feel like crap? , the beauty and the key feature of Busy's vacation is it's it's a set it and forget it and you're just kind of forced.

You can't sit there and watch the clock and mope around. You have to get after it and eventually you're gonna heal and it's not about not drinking, it's about massively upgrading your life. , alcohol is negatively affecting your hormones, your sleep, your diet, your gut, your inflammation, your absorption of nutrients, your, the size of your brain, how your brain is wired.

And there's so much, there's so many things going downhill as you're aging on top of wear and tear. I know Chaz, you guys are all about, top performance and great business and that takes a lot of time and effort and sometimes, things go sideways on the side. So a lot of men of success in our alcohol access culture just really wind up, they're making money, but they're not ma managing the store and they're really majoring in minor things and I think.

A lot of guys will work out and try to do some salads. They'll try to lose some weight, but what they'll find is they're pissing up wind with their physiology and they're just not, they don't wind up getting the results because alcohol is, you stuck in so many different negative feedback loops, you're not even aware of that, you're just not gonna get the results with as you age.

And so you kind of like, eh, I'll, I'll just kinda let that go. Okay, I'll just take this pill that my doctor gave me. I'll just have this procedure. Oh, can't really play this anymore. So your quality of life is like tanking. You're Hey, at least I got some money. But guess what? You like, you hit chronic disease and you're like forties or fifties.

it's not game over, but you're playing a new game and it's not any fun and your business is going south.

[00:12:58] Chaz Wolfe: I

didn't Hear you say one good thing about those are all negative. I wanna talk about impulse

control

[00:13:04] Clifford stephan: talk, I talk a lot of shit. That's my nature. It's, somebody's gotta, combat the, all those beer commercials with the

[00:13:09] Chaz Wolfe: Well, I hear you talking truth, right? I hear you just saying, let's just look at what it is. Right. Okay. So I'm exchanging. What I think of as culture norm and fun,and my belief as maybe the listener is thinking is that in order to have these things, I have to interject alcohol and all, you're, all I'm hearing you saying is, Hey, what if you could have those things without the poison that literally you're putting in your body that has all these other effects?

if you can still have this, if you can still have the life that you want, have the business, have the fun, have the marriage, have the, have all the stuff, but it's just. Doesn't include, the thing that you're putting in your body that's giving you all these other negatives. Wouldn't that be the best case scenario?

And someone's like, well, yes, of course, but that doesn't exist. But Clifford's saying, well, of course it does. That's why, that's why I'm here. a little,wheel of like decision making in here. Impulse control. I'm huge on decision making. I am who I am. You are who you are based on ar thoughts and then our actions.

But inside of that is decision making. You said impulse control. Decision making impulse control. It's it,we're in the same lane. So talk about that. how does alcohol affect my impulse control? And then how does impulse control really help determine the rest of all the other stuff that we're talking about as far as success,

[00:14:23] Clifford stephan: Yeah. Yeah. So again, there's a lack of impulse control and discipline. couple drinks a week on a regular basis, it's referred to as chronic. It's rewiring your neural circuitry. And also it's directly and indirectly, affecting and lowering testosterone levels.

Which for men is really important to, for drive and performance, libido, but also , the proper testosterone levels makes doing hard things feel good. And so when you have low testosterone, you have a lack of drive. You're not feeling very good physically and emotionally.

And, doing hard things, doesn't feel good. And so again, it's comfort is killing us, right? It's it's Hey, just gimme a Starbucks, gimme, gimme a bagel, gimme a beer. , it's just always about numbing out it's really damaging and over time that can really lead to ba bad outcomes because you're very shortsighted, , you're in these lowered states and you're just trying to get back to square.

And again, I'm sounding a little bit dire, but I think that's the reality even with guys that have it all on paper. and I think that's even, it's almost even worse when, like, when you are rocking like the killer neighborhood and the great car and the beautiful family and you got the killer businessso on paper you have it all, but when you look, you peel back the layers.

These guys are dragging ass. They have, they're outta shape. Bad blood work. They're moping around, they're discontent.

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Yeah. Well, I think that's spot on. I mean, you're saying, Hey guys, here's the information. do with it what you want. That's true autonomy, right? Like you've just not been given all the right information, and that's what I'm hearing you say is. Based on, here's some data, not only my story, but some research and some accurate information.

Here's how a good way that you can maybe do it differently and doing it differently might look like. Permanently, getting rid of it. It might look like just, x naing it for a period of time. the freedom there or the autonomy there, I think is what's important for the listeners.

'cause it really does come down to you. Now we're talking about success principles again, because if it's not your desire, if it's not something that you personally, the listener want to do, you're not gonna do it. People do what they want to do. We know this. and so if it's something that you do for a period of time, but you can't sustain it.

You're gonna have to either rewire something or figure out what the greater desire is, right? 'cause it's always about lesser or greater desire. I'm hearing you say that the greater desire for you was to perform at a higher level or to get rid of all the negative, aging and low testosterone and all the negative effects.

And it was like, no, actually the weight of that wasn't worth the few good things that, quote unquote alcohol gave me in my sphere of influence. am I hearing you right?

[00:17:48] Clifford stephan: yeah. at the end of the day, I was working very diligently to, have the good effects of alcohol and without the bad, and that's just unfortunately was impossible. and so led me down a rabbit hole and just spending a lot of time, money, and energy on my, my sleep and supplements and fitness and diet re regimes and just.

so much time and nonsense that you know of not getting the result, and UL ultimately. The epiphany was, alcohol's the master key. That stuff all works actually fantastically well. It's just outta sequence. You have to have alcohol on the shelf, you have to put down one thing to get another.

And we're not trading one for one, we're trading one for a hundred. I think. People think it's a bigger lift and a bigger ask to really get these massive improvements that I'm talking about.

But that's why I'm targeting my peers that do drink regularly but aren't alcoholics because putting that down and then they start working on some,basic health and wellness, sleep habits, diet, fitness,different things. You could just get such massive gains and results like so quickly, get the momentum, get pumped up, and and to your point, I think.

I think when it comes to guys making their choices, there's, there is a big roadblock of, Hey, I'm gonna lose my identity. I'm not gonna be as my fun and wild side, and I'm not gonna have any friends that are gonna do it. And so that's exactly why we created Boo Vacation, because, the community is super important.

they need to know that they're not like some weirdo. And I think a lot of people drink because, I mean, I know I did and a lot of my buddies 'cause it's like we still, we're still that same guy in high school and college and we're still that same wild guy. And it's like, yeah, that's great.

But if you're not surfing and if you're not, if you're not getting after it, and if you like, you look and feel like crap and your shoulder's busted and you're, you got this pill and this side effect, it's like, Hey, man,

you're not aligned there. I've been able to regain my youth. I surf 10 foot waves for my 50th birthday in Nicaragua. it was sketchy, but I survived and had a great time. Hanging out with my buddies , and

it's really about that quality of life. and like I said, I think a lot of people have a really strong association with their identity, but I think you're a lot, you're a lot more you when you're smarter with your alcohol use. And that's, having the ability to put it down for an extended period of time and relearn how to have fun and relax and enjoy life without it.

[00:20:07] Chaz Wolfe: yeah. I'm hearing two, two people being affected here, which is really the case in everything in life. But I'm hearing, the negatively influenced person is hearing you say. It's bad for me. it's keeping me from all these things. X, X, okay, fine. But then the other person over here, probably a little bit more like me, who's positively motivated and you're telling me that I'm only living at 40, 50, 60%.

I would challenge that even and say if, 'cause of the mindset piece that we haven't even talked about that's associated to this impulse control and decision making and success, that they're probably only operating at 10 or 20%. And so if that's true, even if it's 40, 50% and he is killing it, crushing it, family, cars, house, business, whatever, imagine what it could be, right?

And so I think it's one way or the other, it's like you're either motivated you to run away from all the negative things or you're motivated to run towards your potential. 'cause I'm definitely that guy where you're like, if you were telling me today, and if I drank alcohol, which I don't, but.

If I'm listening. I'm going wait a second. there's a, there's an easier way to get to the next level. Well, yeah. Sign me up for that. why would I be willing to hold onto something that's like actually keeping me back? And so talk about maybe that for a second, for guys that have gone,through your program, they're in the community, all that fun stuff.

do you see this kinda one guy's running away from the thing and one guy's running kind of towards the thing?

[00:21:29] Clifford stephan: Yeah. I think it's different for our, for different people, but you know, I, we do try to hit both of those themes. I think a lot, oftentimes the stick is a little bit more, powerful motivator than the carrot. It's a really neat opportunity to. really restore your health and feel your feelings and get a lot of epiphanies and a lot, just a lot more time and space and healing your mind and you're quieting your mind.

And so I. It's just really a heck of an opportunity to just tap the brakes and get some insights, while you can, because world's crazy. You got a lot of responsibilities, lots to do. You're trying to have fun, you're trying to take care of business.

But, I think probably people are more, more motivated by, again, like nobody wants to leave money on the table. I do talk a fair amount of shit on it, but I don't think people realize the impact it's, it has on their health and how a lot of people are on the red line and. My peers in their late forties could be, months away from a cancer diagnosis or chronic disease. It's super expensive. It's not very effective. Yeah, we have some, some pills and stuff like that, but ultimately it's so much easier to, restore your health than it is to, a attempt to manage chronic disease, which is essentially just Sort of playing whack-a-Mole with a bunch of different symptoms and issues. I think a lot of top performers, they treat themselves like junkyard dogs, not like million dollar race horses.

[00:22:51] Chaz Wolfe: The guy that's listening right now that's this sounds.I know that this is probably not good for me, but a year, I mean, just, it's just inconceivable to them like they're that buddy that was to you. dude, that's crazy. Walk through the year, give them this roadmap that makes it believable for them.

What does it look like for them at, month one through three, three through six, six through nine, nine through 12?

[00:23:19] Clifford stephan: we have our, these vacations are three, six, and 12 months. again, it does depend a little bit about your situation and where you're at and where your health levels are, how much you've drank, and so if you've been drinking heavily for a good 20 years. a three month break is gonna be, it's gonna be really impactful, but,, you're probably making a lot more money and get a lot more insights for the taking those longer breaks.

So, yeah, we encourage a longer, the reality is that, and this is gonna sound silly, but the hardest part about taking a booze vacation. Is not taking the booze vacation, it's the deciding to take a booze vacation. And so again, it's and the hardest part, and then the second hardest part is like the first two to three weeks where you have a little bit the strongest of the physical and emotional dependence to it.

And then the rest is like this, again, once you reemerge after that month and your body's starting to heal and you're starting to get, again, you're not watching the clock 'cause it's not anytime soon. it's really just about just getting after it and restoring your health and swinging for the fences and going big.

but yeah, I mean, to walk through it. So yeah, we encourage longer breaks and again, the other obvious thing is I think a lot of people will look at their social calendar and be like, okay, well I have this wedding and I have this and that, and it's

really it's not about like your social calendar. It's like, when do you wanna stop rolling the dice with your health? When do you want to get back to a hundred percent and stop and really, get after it and really live your life to the fullest, But you know, to step back, obviously you need to know what you're up against and why you're doing it.

And so that's, we work a lot on that. and related to guys, and again, not finger pointing, but just, talking about the realities of that environment and. And what that lifestyle, leads to predictably. But yeah, the first couple weeks is, a little tricky or a little, it's a little boring,

You've been, kicking the crap outta yourself for, in a lot of cases, decades. And, just across the board, just bad diet choices, bad hormones. your brain,your digestive system,your infl inflammation in the body. There's so many things that are just.

Kind of going south. , ultimately it's the kind of, the tricky part is we're swapping out an operating system. If alcohol isn't fun, friends events and a reward system, then what the, then how do you get your fun friends and event and reward system? And so it's really about increasing your activity levels and getting after it and just,

your currency is like muscle mass and activities. And again, guys get into their forties and fifties, like muscle mass is your currency for longevity, and we want guys crushing it to 99 and beyond and we don't want 'em slipping and falling and wasting away, to really, again, get your mind back, get that I impulse the impulsivity. A lot of that stuff is just, it's just really tricky to do with when, with alcohol still in the mix.

But yeah, I would say , the first, three to four weeks, you're getting your sea legs and getting acclimated. And you're starting to look and feel better and drop a couple pounds and then, yeah. It's really about, again, not about not drinking, but it's really about keeping your foot on the gas and so start working on your sleep and sleep routines and getting into the gym and working out and getting movement and getting light.

I. And, dusting off the toys in the garage and yeah, you're gonna be doing different stuff and yeah, there's gonna be a lot of time for personal and professional development, listening to your favorite podcasts, audible books, and still going to parties and trying to like, getting a couple at bats.

Ultimately you're gonna be a light in the darkness, and a lot of people are gonna be really intrigued and you're have a lot of cool conversations. Again, it's not like you have to be a spokesperson for it, but there's this, there's a real pent up need for this because there's a million dudes out there that could really need this

[00:26:51] Chaz Wolfe: yeah. Yeah. the breaking of the cycle. Right. and that's truly. What success really is. it's, overcoming, limiting beliefs, breaking cycles, creating new, habits or, neural pathways to be able to get to where we want to go. And that's what it takes. And so someone might be listening, going, I'm sorry, what did you say?

It's well, let's at least just identify one thing that alcohol literally is not good for you, but. Just take a little booze vacation and see what happens. I can tell you from somebody who has been in many social circumstances over my 37 years of life, and because I've never had a taste of alcohol, and so it's been brought up many times and, thank goodness, I just have never cared.

I just do not care what you think about me. And so I've never had that social pressure of oh, maybe I should because, I wanna fit in. I haven't had that, however. The conversation still remains the same, which is it comes up and I have to be ready for it, which is, at this point, it's just, it's fun for me now because, 37 years in, I'm like, I'm ready.

what? You want the bazooka? You want that I'm coming at you one way or the other. one thing that I've always referenced back to, which has helped me not even from a faith perspective, 'cause it's a Bible verse that I'm gonna quote. It has nothing to do with that particularly. It has everything to do with what the scripture says.

It's in Proverbs. It's Proverbs 31, but he talks about how alcohol is for those that are depressed and trying to overcome grief, but it's not for kings, lest they have too much make bad decisions and ruin the kingdom for all these people that they're responsible for. And so it's okay, so as an entrepreneur, you're listening to this right now going, I know maybe you don't, maybe you don't think you have a kingdom, but you've got a family.

You have maybe an employee or two or a hundred. They have a family. There's people in your community. Maybe you go to church, maybe you don't. Maybe there's people at your, local,surfing spot that you're impacting. There are other people counting on you. And when you make bad choices, it affects other people.

And so everything I've heard, Clifford drop on us today is, this is just one particular way that you can make better decisions, like a lot better decisions. he's made a really good case for that. But if I'm just going back to. If I want to be the best version of myself or impact other people, I gotta make good decisions,which is in essence,the identity piece that we're talking about.

I'm a good decision maker, so if I'm a good decision maker, when you offer me alcohol or a lot of other things, I just say, oh no, thanks. I'm a good decision maker,so anyway, I want to, I want you to tell us real quick here.how can we find you? How can we sign up to do a booze vacation?

I just couldn't align myself more. I'm not your avatar, but I could not stand more strongly with you because, the more men that you get making amazing decisions, the more kingdoms out there that are impacted. And that's my mission. So we gotta do this together. Where can they find you?

Where can they sign up to take a booze vacation?

[00:29:38] Clifford stephan: Yeah. Thanks so much, Chaz. I appreciate that. They could find us@boozevacation.com and sign up for a vacation. Take some quick win challenges.

They can just start getting smarter with their alcohol use and they don't have to take any immediate action. But yeah, just start planting those seeds. Start seeing some things that are hard to unsee and letting that percolate in the brain and knowing it is a good decision if you're looking to improve your performance

[00:30:02] Chaz Wolfe: I love it. Clifford, you are an incredible, obviously you got a story we didn't even get into your business exploits, but, you've been crushing business for a long time and now you get to help man in a pretty particular way. I love what you're doing and of course we'll have all that in the show notes.

As well. So we hope that, many listeners, go check you out and, maybe they sign up for a little booze vacation, maybe make some better decisions, and, get that peak performance that you're talking about. Clifford, thank you so much for being here. All the work that you're doing, all the men that you're touching, we appreciate you.

Blessings to you. Bye.

[00:30:29] Clifford stephan: Thank you so much, Chaz. I really appreciate you having me on.

Chaz Wolfe welcomes Clifford Stephan to the kings’ stage to discuss ‘Booze Vacation.’ Clifford developed his business to improve health, wellness, and performance in high achieving men. A serial entrepreneur, Clifford shares his experience running a compensation consulting company and his recent endeavors in the health sector, specifically focusing on men's health and wellness. Curious on what a Booze Vacation IS and if it’s right for you? Tune in now!

Clifford Stephan:

Website: https://boozevacation.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boozevacation/

Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/BoozeVacation/

Email: clifford@boozevacation.com

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