423 | Overnight Success... 8 Years In The Making - Dillon Bettinger

Jan 17

[00:00:35] Chaz Wolfe: What's up everybody? I'm Chaz Wolf gathering the King's podcast. Coming back to you here today with another king on the stage. I got another Kansas City in my brother, Dylan Bettinger Dylan. How we doing this morning?
[00:00:47] Dillon Bettinger: Good man. How are you doing?
[00:00:48] Chaz Wolfe: I'm wonderful. We were just kind of going back and forth here, um, and I didn't tell you this, but it's funny, over the course of like, you know, 450 shows now we've had.
[00:00:56] Chaz Wolfe: Several Kansas, IANS and I always just like, man, it's just so cool to like, man, we've never met, but we should meet . We're not that far away from each other. ~Um, ~but I appreciate you being here, Dylan. ~Um, ~I know you just got back in town from a family event and it's Monday morning and I appreciate you being here, man.
[00:01:10] Dillon Bettinger: Yeah, man. Thanks for having me.
[00:01:11] Chaz Wolfe: Of course. Tell us what kind of business that you got, Dylan.
[00:01:14] Dillon Bettinger: So my business is all pro renovations. ~Um, ~and then we also have an exteriors division and then, you know, flipping buy and hold, stuff like that. So we have another division for that. ~Um, ~but we do construction, so we do rehabs, we do homeowners additions, basements, you know, all the stuff that,~ uh,~ is typically beyond,~ uh,~ somebody being able to do themselves,
[00:01:31] Dillon Bettinger: So.
[00:01:32] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah. Yeah. It, there's a, there's a major value there,~ um,~ that you bring to the Kansas City market. ~Um, ~is there, is there hope that to expand past Kansas City one day or are you,~ uh,~ are you just making the best of, of what we call, uh, our home, our home city?
[00:01:45] Dillon Bettinger: Man, you know, ~uh, ~something I flirted with. But you know, the more and more I, I guess the older I get, the more I just care about,~ uh,~ finding ways , to be able to have more time and less,~ uh,~ energy having to be spent. You know, it's, I don't think,~ uh,~ money's my ultimate,~ uh,~ goal anymore. It's just,~ uh,~ time.
[00:01:59] Dillon Bettinger: So, ~um, ~no, I mean, Kansas City based, I think I'm gonna stick around here and, you know, just keep getting to you know, highest quality output we can be.
[00:02:07] Chaz Wolfe: I love what, I love your answer there around time. I think that there's a lot of people listening here today that probably feel the same,~ uh,~ even if they're in the early stages. But we've got a lot of really big business owners that listen to this show as well. And I'm sure that they're nodding their head going, yep, time is, is the most precious.
[00:02:20] Chaz Wolfe: We're definitely gonna get into some of that and how you've maybe made some decisions around that. ~Um. ~Tell us before we kind of get rolling before we start business stuff. You Dylan, like why renovations? Why business? Why, why are you who you are? What, what? What's beating down deep inside of you that wakes you up every morning to do a podcast like this?
[00:02:37] Chaz Wolfe: Or go build your business?
[00:02:39] Dillon Bettinger: Yeah, man. I mean , I'd say I think, built a little differently. , since I was 14, I was working 40 hours a week. I just loved business and I don't know, success. In the beginning I was working for the man, you know, I was working in distribution, manufacturing, doing plant management, stuff like that.
[00:02:54] Dillon Bettinger: And, and I loved it. Um, the thing was, wife having two kids. The income just wasn't gonna suffice her staying home. So really what came to entrepreneurship was just a, not more of a desire, but a need, it was more, you know, my alpha personality, , needing to be able to provide, protect, you, the provide part.
[00:03:14] Dillon Bettinger: , I knew that the only way I was gonna make the money that, you know, was required for my family to. I felt like survive at the time. ' I'm kind of a worst case guy. , was for me to kind of put myself out there and say, you know, I'm gonna do what maybe I can or cannot do, that's kinda what put me into it.
[00:03:30] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah. And so like in that moment, I, I think that there's,~ uh,~ different types of personalities that respond differently in those moments, but what I'm hearing you say is that it was a little bit of the backs against the ropes scenario. Like kind of all things were like, I either continue the way I am and I can see that going not super great, so I have to make a change, kind of backs up against the ropes.
[00:03:49] Chaz Wolfe: My family's counting on me. Is that, is that kind of the moment that you hit, you're describing here?
[00:03:53] Dillon Bettinger: Man, it's uh, it is kind of like backed up into a corner and, you know, having to fight your way out of it, um, is kind of how I felt at the time. Just 'cause, you know, it's, you know, life isn't cheap. So I just grinded and, you know, did that while working two jobs. I mean, you know, just made it happen, you know, it's kind of what I'm built for, I guess ,
[00:04:11] Chaz Wolfe: yeah. Well, and you, and you say that lightly, and obviously I've got some notes here that I know a little bit, but I want you to tell the audience, like you say like I was grinding and worked a couple jobs at the same time, but like you really mean that like you were building your business at the beginning in the first, how many years while you were still working
[00:04:28] Chaz Wolfe: other jobs.
[00:04:28] Dillon Bettinger: So, um, so I had three jobs for my first five years in business. I worked at AllPro on the weekends at night. I'd take my service call at two o'clock in the morning. I just did whatever it took. Right. And then at the daytime, I'm doing my nine to five. some part-time stuff.
[00:04:43] Dillon Bettinger: just doing everything it takes. 'cause business, you know, it's expensive. You gotta make sure you have a backlog, you don't wanna have a bunch of money borrowed. for me it was, you know, I want cash money. I want to have a lot of money to be able to expand and grow. And you can't do that unless you're just working nonstop or you're spending it.
[00:04:59] Dillon Bettinger: So it was, uh. ~ ~Just work, work, work and, and grind, grind, grind. I mean, yeah. I mean, , you know, to say it lightly, you know, is uh, you~ know,~ 18 hour days were my short days and that was for four or five years. Um, every single day of the week, you know, when people are partying and having a good time and living life, I'm taking sacrifice and, you know, spending the one hour or two hours a day I have with my family.
[00:05:20] Dillon Bettinger: And that's about it. You know, it was tough to have friends at the time, so.
[00:05:24] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I wanna press into this a little bit because your, your story,~ um,~ you know, just the little bits that I know of it are pretty similar to mine and all the things that you just said that you were willing to give up in order to be able to have the success, you know, the success that you have.
[00:05:37] Chaz Wolfe: Now, a lot of people, and, and Alex Ramzi talks about this, he, they. They look at you now and go, well, he values time and you know, all the other things that, now that you've kind of achieved those things, it's like, well, I wanna emulate that. You know, maybe he went to the gym today. Maybe he spent some, a good morning routine, you know, like he values time.
[00:05:55] Chaz Wolfe: He just took his kids to, you know, Disney World. Like, okay, cool. Like I'll go do those things. And it's like, well wait a second. You're emulating the wrong stage of the journey, right?
[00:06:03] Chaz Wolfe: The part of the journey for you that they should be emulating is more of like, like the grind and the hustle.
[00:06:07] Chaz Wolfe: So talk about this for a second.
[00:06:08] Dillon Bettinger: Yeah. You know, the must be nice type of people. Right. You know, they see what it is now and they think, man, he just makes it look so easy. It's like if you just would've seen, man, the nights and the weekends and the stress and the anxiety, you know, I used to not understand what mental health issues were.
[00:06:23] Dillon Bettinger: 'cause I thought it was, uh. ~ ~Not as serious as a thing as it is because I never endured it myself. Um, but I can tell you when you grind and work yourself, you know, to death, um, , ~ ~it's, it's not an easy road. It's definitely an achievable road, but it is grinding,
[00:06:39] Dillon Bettinger: it The other 99% aren't gonna wake up in the morning at 4:00 AM They're not gonna go to service calls at two in the morning. They're not gonna sacrifice their weekends and their nights and their, I mean, every hour of the day. It's like . You're sleeping, waking up at the middle of the night thinking of business.
[00:06:53] Dillon Bettinger: Um,~ you know,~ it's, it's, you have to become it. Like I told my wife, it was when the kids are five years old, I want to grind. As much as I hate not being there full time, these are the years they won't remember as much as, as much as I might regret not being there as often as I should be, it's gonna give us the opportunity for me
[00:07:10] Dillon Bettinger: to be there when I really need to be there, at least in, you know, my opinion. you know, we came to an agreement I was gonna grind, like just religiously for 5, 7, 8 years, and I was gonna make it happen. And, uh, you know, we're starting to see the fruits of our labor. Um, and it's, it's, a great feeling.
[00:07:28] Dillon Bettinger: But, um,~ it, it~ wasn't, uh, ~ ~it wasn't easy. Um,~ it,~ it, you know, it, uh, ~ ~ yeah, it wasn't easy. ~Um, through ~through that
[00:07:36] Chaz Wolfe: we can hear the emotion in the story, like when you're just like, you know, at a loss for words. Like, it just, it wasn't easy. , and I think everybody listening, . To a degree understands that because it, none of it is, is easy. But I think what I want to hit home for the listener is that you, you said, first off, you came into an agreement with your wife.
[00:07:54] Chaz Wolfe: That's huge. That's a whole nother subject that maybe we'll have time to get to. But,~ um,~ you said I'm gonna grind for five to eight years, and you're in year eight or nine of your business. Now you're starting to, you know, ~uh, ~reap some of those rewards you're talking about, but . I heard, I heard something over the weekend,~ um,~ that made like, when I was kind of reviewing everything, getting ready for the show, it made me think of your story and, 'cause you've been in business 7, 8, 9 years.
[00:08:20] Chaz Wolfe: Right? Am I right on that? I can't
[00:08:21] Chaz Wolfe: remember exactly. And so in my mind, 'cause 'cause you've got this hockey stick growth in your, in your history, maybe you wanna talk about that here in a second, but it was like a eight year success or an overnight, that's what it's, hold on. Overnight success. Eight years in the making.
[00:08:36] Chaz Wolfe: Is was what the phrase was that I applied to your timeline. You know what I mean? Does that, Does that,
[00:08:40] Chaz Wolfe: feel right? Like overnight
[00:08:42] Chaz Wolfe: success?
[00:08:42] Dillon Bettinger: What people don't understand and one thing that you know, so I'm a Black Belt Six Sigma, I'm all about process improvement. I'm all about lean gambit kai, like everything it does to improve a business. It if you can, if it takes five to six years of just building that solid base, I mean, I was out there working for free to get a five star review, Hey, I'll come mount your tv.
[00:09:02] Dillon Bettinger: All I need is a five star review. I mean, that's what I did. Those are the sacrifices I took. I, I mean, my first year in business, I, I, I was the, I, I did the most revenue as a nonprofit. No, I mean, you know, it's just like we didn't make any money. I just, I worked for free. I mean, I legitly worked for free for reviews.
[00:09:19] Dillon Bettinger: I worked for free for. Building the brand and people don't understand that's the stuff you have to do. It be how much losses you take in business really make you into a, a successful business. Um,~ you know,~ having good ethics and stuff and, and back in the day, ~ ~it was every day I was doing something for, I mean, next to free, just to be able to build the brand.
[00:09:39] Dillon Bettinger: ~ it~ it wasn't profitable. That's why I had to take a second job to get it there. But if you try to build based off of just profit, you're never gonna have that hockey stick approach, right, where you can just skyrocket. ICE probably spent 20 hours a week working on website, CSR Systems, ~ ~operations, SOPs.
[00:09:58] Dillon Bettinger: Finding the right subs, like all this stuff that nobody sees, that is the most hard part of all. This is all just the things you don't really see. But once I set that all up and I spent all that time developing these things, it made it so easy to scale. had to do that due diligence and that legwork and those 16 hours in front of a computer where I don't look away, , for a single second.
[00:10:20] Dillon Bettinger: You know, I mean, that was just, it's what it takes to, to get there.
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[00:10:23] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah. One thing that you're, that you're hinting at that I, I want to maybe dig into a lot of, especially contractors, but really I could apply that to anything, is if, if they're a,~ uh,~ service provider online, they're a marketing person or a graphic designer or whatever, this, this applies to kind of everybody in that way, but the, the technician, E-Myth talks about this.
[00:10:41] Chaz Wolfe: We had Michael Gerber here on the show, but the technician starts the business. Right. The guy that does . The project and he's good at doing the work. But what I heard you say, even though that you were doing that, 'cause you had to, at the beginning, you were thinking like an entrepreneur. You were thinking about the brand.
[00:10:57] Chaz Wolfe: You were thinking about, I don't want to take the money, I don't want to exchange . like mounting the TV for money. Although yes, that is how a business works. And I'm not saying do it for free, and I don't think Dylan is either, at least for very long. ~Um, ~but, but what I'm hearing you say though is that you were thinking two and three and maybe eight, nine years in advance, even in those moments.
[00:11:17] Chaz Wolfe: Can you talk about this for a second?
[00:11:18] Dillon Bettinger: So Contracting's a really easy thing to be successful in if you are a business-minded person and not so focused on just being able to swing a hammer. Most, most people in my industry, man, they're really good at doing the work, but that you can't, you can't, um. You can't grow when you have to do it all yourself.
[00:11:38] Dillon Bettinger: So you gotta really create those systems and processes. ~ ~I think a lot of what I try to bring to the table when I'm doing a job is, okay, five years out, where's this gonna have me? Right? I, I never look like for short money, you know, it's a, it's always been, um, ~ ~man, like from this scenario, you know, five feet looking in.
[00:12:01] Dillon Bettinger: What is, where's this gonna bring me in the next five years with the, with the reaction I make? Like, do I just take care of this customer that is wrong, that isn't in their right to give them a happy end result? Even though I know what's wrong, , but do I do that for them to be happy or, or do I ruin my reputation?
[00:12:20] Dillon Bettinger: Right? So there's all those little things that man, and it hurts. I mean, when, when you're, when you're sitting there and you have to eat $10,000 for something, you shouldn't be having to eat, but you're doing it just because of someone's feelings. It can be a strong hit to you mentally, but you just have to do what you have to do.
[00:12:35] Dillon Bettinger: You always gotta put yourself in their shoes. And that's what I try to always do is, you know, I always tell my people what would Jesus do? But, uh, you~ know,~ 'cause I just think if you look at every single approach based off of doing it ethically, um, never gonna make the wrong decision.
[00:12:48] Chaz Wolfe: I'm gonna keep, I'm gonna stay on this vein here. It's so good. ~Um, ~so we've got kind of two things working. I'm hearing you talk about one ethics. One is, uh, like mindset or the strength to be able to carry something like you're saying just like $10,000.
[00:13:02] Chaz Wolfe: Blip, like, whew, you know, for most entrepreneurs, until you can kind of get to the space where you're like, oh, it's just, oh, it's 10 K. That's it. Oh, okay. Oh, it's a hundred K. Oh, no big deal. The, you, you gave us a long, a little bit of the track record there for ethics for you has to do with faith and for your people.
[00:13:18] Chaz Wolfe: It's like, okay, gimme a, gimme a reference here. What should I do? I should do the right thing. And then if you can back that up with, you know, a. ~Uh, ~a faith belief then, then. Great. On the mindset side though, how do you, how do you work the mindset where you're just like, yeah, yeah. ~Uh, ~$10,000 that we're paying for that we shouldn't, but we're gonna do it with joy because that's what Jesus says.
[00:13:37] Chaz Wolfe: Whoa, that's a strong mindset. How do you get there?
[00:13:39] Dillon Bettinger: So, um,
[00:13:43] Dillon Bettinger: I think at, at one point, man, it's like, it's, it's just like with making money, right? At one point you want all this money. Then once you have it, you're like, what do I want it for? Um, ~ ~it's kind of the same thing with business. I don't want to have a business that's just profitable. I want a business that is almost legacy.
[00:14:00] Dillon Bettinger: , I wanna be the best in the business. I always say I. The day my business makes me cry is the day I'll be as, as proud as possible. because it's hard for me to do that ., I want a business I can be proud of that way. So I tell all my people we're, we're not in this business for just profitability.
[00:14:14] Dillon Bettinger: Great businesses are built off of like. Ethical success. I would never price out somebody like I tell my people on change orders, stuff like that. Put yourself in their shoes. How would you feel if you're getting this cost? you know, I've had a guy, you know, come in once.
[00:14:30] Dillon Bettinger: Oh. I made 2,500 bucks on this change order. It's like a 200% markup, blah, blah, blah. I said, well, okay, so you're gonna go in there immediately and you're gonna adjust that down to 25, 30%. That's what we're gonna do, because I don't like that. You think greed is, uh, and again, some people can call it
[00:14:45] Dillon Bettinger: business. I don't, um,~ I, I,~ you know, I think, um, ~ ~we all need to make a fair day's wage, but I think if you make it the honest way, I think that's why we've been successful. I think people at least know at the end of the day, even if we make mistakes, if we let 'em down, , no matter what, we're gonna stand behind what we do.
[00:15:02] Dillon Bettinger: And I'm always gonna do the right thing. And I think that means something, you know? Um, a lot of people don't understand that that hurts. Um,~ you're~ gonna lose a lot of money. Having my mindset ~um, that~ you probably wouldn't lose. If you didn't, but also you're going to limit your success because for me, I'm growing this empire because we do take care of our beast.
[00:15:22] Dillon Bettinger: I mean, I have people that we do a bad job on and still come back for a second job because at least we did it right. We made it right. We were there for them. We,
[00:15:29] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah. Yeah. You made it right?
[00:15:31] Dillon Bettinger: We, everyone makes mistakes. I mean, we're all, we're all gonna let somebody down from time to time, but the end of the day it's how you come back and how you come after it.
[00:15:39] Dillon Bettinger: It's like I had a guy from two years ago say, Hey, there was a raccoon that got in an attic that you said you guys sealed up the chimney and there were still small hole. I told him to send me. The bills were five 50 bucks. I paid 'em. I went out there, I mean, this was last week and we went out there and we fixed it.
[00:15:54] Dillon Bettinger: We made it right. He was just appreciative and said, Hey, he's gonna call me in the future. As much as he was upset, he was really happy about how he handled it, um,~ and how~ we just, you know, owned it and just moved on. And that's what you have to do. You have to do what's right. When we know we don't make, when we know we don't do what's right, you have to just own it and you have to do what's right, in my opinion.
[00:16:13] Dillon Bettinger: Um, ~ ~I don't know. It's a, it's a good business to be in
[00:16:17] Chaz Wolfe: yeah. No, there's power. There's power here.
[00:16:20] Dillon Bettinger: Yeah,
[00:16:20] Chaz Wolfe: exactly. Yeah. There, there's power. ~Um, ~in, in being resolute, that's what probably the deepest piece of what I'm hearing you say is that you're given some tactics here. You're given some mindset, which is all super great. Below that is that you're resolute.
[00:16:33] Chaz Wolfe: You believe what you're saying, and I hope that the audience can pick that up because it doesn't actually matter if you're right or wrong, , you believe it. So therefore it is, and this is, this is how it works. Like you said a few minutes ago, you're, if you believe what I believe you're gonna . Possibly lose money.
[00:16:48] Chaz Wolfe: You're gonna do this, but you're also gonna have room for expansion. You're like, you just have to be all in. That's what I'm hearing you say is that you're just resolute, this is how I do it, this is why we're gonna do it, and we're gonna do it like this until something dramatically changes, you know?
[00:17:01] Chaz Wolfe: Um, especially, especially in in home service, you know, there's probably a lot of contractors, listening, but home service remodeling, like you just, you can, you can . You can have a particular client, let's just say it like that. You can have a particular client who at the end of a project,~ um,~ isn't super happy, but oddly enough they call you back.
[00:17:21] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah.
[00:17:22] Chaz Wolfe: you know, and, and a lot of that that you're talking about is,~ um,~ is how you handle those moments when you know, when maybe other people would just walk away. I mean, that's like, it's the black eye of the business. How many times do you, do you, does someone call you guys going ? Someone left. ~Uh, ~they took all my money.
[00:17:38] Chaz Wolfe: It's half done. You know, it's just, it's unfortunate, but,~ um,~ doing the right thing, like you're talking about makes a big difference. So I hear you on that. How do you think, other than maybe your faith, and, and if you wanna press into that, I'm totally cool with that. ~Um, ~how, how do you feel like that came to be so resolute for you?
[00:17:53] Chaz Wolfe: Like, why, why are you so definitive in doing the right thing?
[00:17:58] Dillon Bettinger: throuGh business, I've got, you know, I've, I've had traumatic experiences in my past and, you know, I don't come from much, uh,~ you know,~ when it comes to, uh,~ did I,~ you know, was I handed anything? Did I go to college? Did I, you know, I, I kind of just a grinder. , I'm a grinder that just knew he had to do whatever it took, but, um. ~ ~I was in a really deep, negative state of mind at one point, in~ in ~business because it was just so much. Um,~ I mean, ~had me like bedridden almost, you know, just the, the stress and the anxiety. I mean, when you're trying to grow at 300% a year, year over year, it's, it's a lot. A healthy growth is 20%, not 300.
[00:18:35] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah.
[00:18:35] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah. Tony would be a lot for something
[00:18:37] Dillon Bettinger: Yeah. And that might be a lot for some, right? So trying to grow 300, it's a lot. Um,~ and,~ uh, ~ ~man, my, my, my stress got so bad and just everything overall is one day I was like, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go into church and I'm gonna see, you know, what, maybe this can do for me. And, uh, ~ ~ man, I remember I left there and my chest, like, I had such bad anxiety I've never felt before.
[00:19:00] Dillon Bettinger: It was like, like I said, bedridden. I left there. Felt freaking healed. I mean, .
[00:19:05] Dillon Bettinger: ~I,~ once I felt that power and, and went back and kind of repetitively got into it, it, it, I, I saw I was missing something that was vital, ~ ~for me. a lot of us don't know what we need until you really just, you take things for granted, your health, your this or that, and you know, your business is going okay, whatever. And, you know, then feast or famine comes and you're. Crap. Well, how do we stay in business when we didn't have good ethics? Well, when you have good ethics, you know, like right now a lot of people are seeing slowdowns.
[00:19:33] Dillon Bettinger: I mean, we're healthy. We're healthy because we do what is right and at least we're gonna stay. We not, we might not make profit margins like, you know, apple, but um, you know, or somebody else, or, we definitely. Are gonna weather the storm, no matter the storm, because we do act in good nature.
[00:19:50] Dillon Bettinger: And, um, ~ ~I think that's important. I think a lot of business owners, they get so trapped in with the money and, and money can blind you from the big picture very easily. seen it with a lot of people that we're just taking, taking out competition wise, um, that had the wrong focus. ~Um, so.~
[00:20:06] Chaz Wolfe: I think there's, there's a lot of folks, uh, kinda going back to the technician mindset for a second,~ uh,~ versus entrepreneur, to your point earlier you said you, you're always in it for the long money. And, and really what that means is that you've made decisions on a longer time horizon. You've made that decision to hang the TV or to do that $500 replacement on that chimney.
[00:20:24] Chaz Wolfe: ~Um, ~because you can see two in five and 20 years even out for your brand as opposed to the technician or the guy who's in it. Who's probably not even gonna be in business in two years. He doesn't even think he's gonna be in business. He hasn't even thought about two years, let alone 20 years. He's just there doing the work for the $200 it takes to install the tv.
[00:20:43] Chaz Wolfe: And so it's, it's just very like either stagnant or a growth mindset. And when you're in growth mindset, to your point, trying to go 300% a year, I mean, that's, that's incredible. You have to think differently. Sometimes it sucks in the moment. In fact, most times growth like that sucks in the moment.
[00:21:48] Dillon Bettinger: Yeah, you gotta endure the
[00:21:50] Dillon Bettinger: endure the suck.
[00:21:51] Dillon Bettinger: Until it's too much. ~Uh, I mean,~ and, and one thing I will say ~ ~I, I found to help me with the suck, um,~ you know,~ there's always good that comes from anything that you do. At the end of the day that suck much. It might, it might be bad, but if I time block and I put it in front of me and I get this done at this point of time, I can get through it all.
[00:22:09] Dillon Bettinger: Um,~ and~ you just gotta figure out what works for you and, and you know, and I think I figured out what works for me. Um, ~ ~'cause I feel better than ever and that's a great thing. 'cause you know, at one point I didn't feel so hot, so, um, you know, we all struggle to get there,
[00:22:24] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah.
[00:22:24] Chaz Wolfe: if you've ever said a true statement, , that's it. You know? I mean, that's actually, this podcast came after I started gathering the Kings as a pure mastermind group for entrepreneurs because of that right there, because I had been through the same journey that you did and realized that.
[00:22:40] Chaz Wolfe: Wow. It is just really, really isolating is really what it comes down to is that all those moments, that dark moment that you were talking about before you went into the church, you were by yourself. Now I know you were married and, and that, and I'm sure she's a supportive wife, and you guys have a great family.
[00:22:57] Chaz Wolfe: Mine is as well. But I can't tell you the hours I've spent in this office making big decisions that affect a lot of people. All by myself. And that wears on a dude after a while. And again, that's why I mean our, our phrase of sit with kings, the conversation is different. This conversation that Dylan and I are having right now can only happen when you've been through the suck a little bit and you recognize that like, yeah, I don't, I don't really want to ever do that again.
[00:23:23] Chaz Wolfe: And, and this is why was let us here to have those conversations so that people listening maybe can avoid some of that stuff. ~Um, ~you can never avoid it all. In fact, I wouldn't want to avoid it. All right,
[00:23:33] Dillon Bettinger: No, it's part of the journey, man. I mean, I, I feel like I wanna be the person. Than I am today, ~ without~ without that journey, would I wanna redo that journey? I don't know. I don't know if I'm volunteering for it, but, um, 'cause it was a, it was a rough one, but at, at the end of the day, I, you know, you become a different person.
[00:23:49] Dillon Bettinger: Um,~ once~ you go through that suck and you go through that pain, you know, it's like people like go into the military and go through special ops training. They're a different person when they come out of there. Um,~ it's the~ same thing with business, I feel. Every year I can look, you know, I bet you feel the same, but you look a year back and you're like, man, I was stupid.
[00:24:04] Dillon Bettinger: Or you know, man, I didn't know much. Or whatever. You just are, how much you learn as you grow and go through that, you know, suffering,, you're supposed to suffer, in my opinion. Um,~ it's part~ of, it's part of the getting the reward. So, , you
[00:24:17] Chaz Wolfe: yeah. No, I a hundred percent agree with you. the, It's the proving through the fire. I mean, we can go, we can go back to,~ uh,~ the topic of faith, but that's, that is, that is what faith is. Whether, whether we're talking about faith, uh, religiously or we're talking about faith in that I believe that my brand's gonna be around for 20 years.
[00:24:32] Chaz Wolfe: Like being able to, to see something without it, without it being, ~um. ~Is crazy slash powerful depending upon how you look at it, you know? ~Um, ~alright, so inside of this we, very philosophical here. ~Uh, ~obviously, you know, great mindset and, and tenacity and all the things that have gotten you to here. Give us one really practical decision that you've made.
[00:24:55] Chaz Wolfe: 'cause you've, 'cause you have grown, it wasn't just like a target of growing 300% a year. I don't know the exact numbers. Maybe you wanna share 'em with us, but it's like . Like, or especially over the last like probably three or four years, you've really hockey stick. So what I want to know is what was one particular maybe practical decision that's helped you do that, that you can share with the audience?
[00:25:12] Dillon Bettinger: I think probably the, I think the largest thing that I've done to help my business grow is getting outta my business. I was a control freak going from hustler to business owner, you know, 'cause the hustler is always trying to do everything themselves. So no one can do it as good as I can. I, I can do everything.
[00:25:32] Dillon Bettinger: But then when I look back and actually look at, like me trying to manage a job, I have no time to manage a job. So as much as I have probably the most good intent to do the best job,
[00:25:42] Dillon Bettinger: I have no time to do it. Um,~ and I~ think I found myself finally saying, Hey, I'm gonna give off some of this responsibility and I.
[00:25:51] Dillon Bettinger: Um,~ I'm gonna~ take a step back and, and, and just try to do more to work on the business and, and give people power instead of hold that power in my hands and say, here, you can, you can, I'll loan this to you. You know? Um, ~ ~I think that's one thing that's helped me tremendously from a growth standpoint. You can't grow when you try to do it all yourself.
[00:26:11] Dillon Bettinger: You gotta
[00:26:11] Dillon Bettinger: start encouraging others and believing in others and, and putting the right people in the right spots. Um. ~ ~Growing a good team. I mean, you're only as good as your team.
[00:26:21] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you on all those things. You said something super interesting there that you used to loan power, but now you give it. What's the difference between loaning and giving?
[00:26:33] Dillon Bettinger: I feel like it'd be situational, like, Hey, I'm gonna give you the power to do your job today, but I, I kind of not micromanage, but I still want to be. Not giving people complete control. It's like, Hey, here's a little bit, but here's, I'm not gonna give you the whole ball. I'm just gonna give you a little bit from it.
[00:26:50] Dillon Bettinger: And, 'cause I still want to control it, you know? And, and now, I mean, we'll have, Jo, I, I used to know every job. I could tell you every job back of my hand, you know. I could tell you every detail. I mean, I, I mean every detail I could tell you how much one thing costs. I mean, it was crazy. Now I have jobs that we're working on and I don't even know who these people are.
[00:27:10] Dillon Bettinger: I don't know what's going on, you know? And it at once scared me to do that because I was like, well then I don't have control. I don't know what's going on. You know, so that's the part that I'd say was hardest for me is 'cause I care so much. Um,~ I mean,~ I really, at the end of the day. I, I would love to see somebody that caress as much about their business as I do.
[00:27:31] Dillon Bettinger: I, I, I'll go head to head with 'em all day long, . ~ but, ~
[00:27:34] Dillon Bettinger: It was a hard thing for me to do is getting that break breakaway from complete control.
[00:27:40] Chaz Wolfe: you kind of just answered this a little bit,~ um,~ as far as being able to give it away, or in those past times you were loaning it at brief moments, do you think that the limitation there was that you cared a lot or was it a mixture of you caring a lot and then you weren't quite sure if they cared a lot, and so it was maybe a lack of trust or maybe a mixture of both?
[00:27:59] Chaz Wolfe: Or was it something else that, that I'm not picking up on?
[00:28:01] Dillon Bettinger: like our tEam really, really cares. I use Trello now for like organizational systems. So you know, I have a board that I can now go onto another person's board. Like before I had that, my thought was I can ask them to do this task, but then I have to follow up anyways to make sure it got done because we didn't have a way to hold them accountable to it.
[00:28:20] Dillon Bettinger: Well, when that's the case, I'm like, I'm just gonna do it my dang self, and I know what'll get done. Then I'd work 120 hours a week to do that. Um, so it wasn't really like, trust is, well, I guess it is somewhat trust that I had an issue with, but not because I didn't trust the person. It's more myself. It's like my own demon that's like, no, you have to do it, Dylan.
[00:28:41] Dillon Bettinger: You will do it. Right. You will not make, you, will not fail. ~Um, ~but then I'm, you know, a customer's waiting a week for a bid because Dylan doesn't have time and he is trying to get to it, but it's just one man and, you know, and so. And then the other guy gets it out in 24 hours. Uh,~ maybe~ he makes one mistake, but he got it out in 24 hours, not a week.
[00:28:59] Dillon Bettinger: So, you know, is that so, you know, it's pretty much the, you know, one person told me, you know, if they can do it 80% as well as you can, or some people say 70, uh,~ you know, ~you should give off the responsibility. ~ and ~kind of what, ~ ~I'm trying to do.
[00:29:11] Chaz Wolfe: No, that's good, man. I think that you're giving really, really good stuff. I like, I like you calling it out as a,~ uh,~ your own individual problem. ~Uh, ~'cause yeah, you're right. It's probably, I mean, we all entrepreneurs, especially the control freak ones like you, like me, we have that innate ability to not only.
[00:29:27] Chaz Wolfe: Do it, but have a desire to do it. But we probably did it pretty well. Like you said, I knew every detail, I knew this, like all of that's pretty high capacity mental processing that you were just sharing when you were in that seat. And so when you have a high performer, it's tough to give it away to somebody else who maybe is also a high performer, but you're like, well, but I can do it.
[00:29:47] Chaz Wolfe: I, I'm good .
[00:29:48] Chaz Wolfe: And so you're right. You're, you were in your own way. That's the message for the, for the listener . Just get out of the, your own way. ~Um, ~it, I'm gonna throw something at you. 'cause I had a guy on a podcast probably a year or so ago, and he was like, you know, a lot of people say like, it's find somebody who's 70%, 80% and, and just be good with it.
[00:30:03] Chaz Wolfe: Which has always been a philosophy that I've, you know, applied. But he gave it in a different way. He's like, look man, if you're doing 10 different things, you can't even be 70%. Now singularly you might be a hundred percent, you might be the actual best. Right, but you're doing 10 things. You're, you're 20%, maybe 15% on all of them, and the guy comes in doing 70%.
[00:30:25] Chaz Wolfe: He's, he crushes your 25% or whatever you're putting in, even though maybe singularly stacked up next to each other, you're, you're better quote unquote than he is 'cause it's your business and you love it more and you care or whatever. I don't know, whatever our mindset is gets twisted sometimes as entrepreneurs, but it's like, no, actually you aren't putting a hundred percent.
[00:30:43] Chaz Wolfe: Would you, does this apply to your history as you kinda look back?
[00:30:46] Dillon Bettinger: Yeah. Uh, a guy, another way I was told about it was, uh, you know, there was a gentleman that was a scholar in a, I can't remember what the, uh, topic was, but he's a scholar in the topic. They took three different people that have never learned it. They're not scholars, they're average students, and they had him in six months.
[00:31:04] Dillon Bettinger: They had to go head to head against each other, the scholar versus three people with, you know, average education. When that, when that six months was up, the three people destroyed that single individual when it came time to do the debate because it's, you know, three average people beat one mastermind because you're one person.
[00:31:22] Dillon Bettinger: Um, so, you know, that kind of, you know, helped break it down for me, um, of like, you know, there's power in numbers. You, you can't do it all yourself. And I also had a lot of great mentors that kind of helped. Me really understand the power of team and the power of culture, um, and creating a community.
[00:31:40] Dillon Bettinger: cause man, I'll, I'll, I'll, you'll, you'll say, you know, you'll, I'll bring up an idea and I'll have somebody chime in and I'm like, I mean, just mind blown by something.
[00:31:49] Dillon Bettinger: I, how did I not think of that? You know, and it's just 'cause you didn't there's power and it, there's power in that.
[00:31:56] Dillon Bettinger: So,
[00:31:56] Chaz Wolfe: just didn't.
[00:31:57] Dillon Bettinger: yeah.
[00:31:58] Chaz Wolfe: you're referencing the actual mastermind principle. Napoleon Hill talks about in Think and Grow Rich or Laws of Success,~ uh,~ or in the Bible, two or more together. There I am. Like this is where the power of multiple people coming together, agitating thought there is power, like literal power that comes outta that.
[00:32:16] Chaz Wolfe: And you did a great job of expressing that. it's awesome to be able to,~ uh,~ communicate that through different language to the audience because part of the mission of gathering the Kings, like I've been a part of coaching programs and, you know, there's gurus out there that, that I actually really enjoy and I follow them, or, or I've paid for their stuff and all That's good.
[00:32:34] Chaz Wolfe: But the value of coming together like-minded, even in our own businesses, we, that's what we're doing in essence, is we're creating our own little mastermind inside of our business with our team. So that way when I come to the table with an idea or they come to the table,~ uh,~ to the table with an idea, it can be this agitation of thought so that something better arises, in essence, everything you just said.
[00:32:53] Chaz Wolfe: So, congratulations, man. It's a principle that most people hear and talk about, but never actually implement into their own businesses. It's pretty powerful.
[00:33:00] Dillon Bettinger: ~It ~
[00:33:00] Chaz Wolfe: ~Um, ~I wanna flip the script here, and I want to, I wanna give you a opportunity to tell us a bad decision. So, I mean, yeah, you're still growing and yeah, it's been hard, but what was one thing that you did that you would just, if you had an opportunity, I mean, I'm sure you learned from it, but it was just not your greatest hour.
[00:33:13] Chaz Wolfe: Let's say it like that.
[00:33:14] Dillon Bettinger: I've had to really get, so I'm a very nice, I try to see everything I can in people and I'm always the, I hate hard conversations. Um, not really a fan of 'em. I know none of us do, but some of us are, you know, uh, better about having hard conversations than others, and that's not my strong suit.
[00:33:32] Dillon Bettinger: Um,~ ~
[00:33:32] Chaz Wolfe: ~Yeah.~
[00:33:32] Dillon Bettinger: we probably could have grown. A lot quicker if I would've made those decisions on staff, like hiring the wrong person, not asking enough questions. I was always like, Hey, I'll just bring you on. You may not be perfectly qualified, but I'll give you 90 days to see how you know if you can figure this out or what have you.
[00:33:50] Dillon Bettinger: And I hired a lot of people that were probably not the correct individuals for the jobs,~ um,~ because I was being
[00:33:56] Dillon Bettinger: weak. I, I wanted, like, I, I wanted to see the best in somebody that I obviously knew wasn't the right fit or, um, ~ ~and it held me back. I mean, I wasted, I, I can't tell you how much, you know, I had probably hit three or four people on my team at a time that were the wrong fit, that I'm wasting, you know, anywhere between 60 and 120,000, you know, in costs on each person at a time.
[00:34:21] Dillon Bettinger: And, and, and just,
[00:34:23] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah.
[00:34:23] Dillon Bettinger: , you gotta be able to just make the decision and, and, and just do what's necessary and don't let emotion hold you back because that's probably been my,
[00:34:32] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah.
[00:34:33] Dillon Bettinger: I mean, even in just business dealings, like some things I've done for people because I think with my head and I don't wanna have hard conversations has costed me a lot of money.
[00:34:42] Dillon Bettinger: Um. ~ ~So what I did was I don't do the hard conversations anymore. , I'm not in charge of it. Um, I'm out of that . That's not me anymore. Um, because I'll give it away. You know, I'm just, that's the guy I am, I, I really do care about other people. Part of the reason I got into business was because I, you know, cared a lot about my family and, and providing.
[00:35:02] Dillon Bettinger: But my second thing once I got into business was I, I mean, we're, we're, you know, we got 150 people working a day. And those 150 people have three to four people in their family. So at the end of the day, I got 600 people's mouths to feed, and it's on Dylan to make sure those mouths get fed. Um, as much as my team has to help and everything else.
[00:35:24] Dillon Bettinger: But at the end of the day, it's my decision that's, it's, it's what I ultimately do,~ um,~ that makes that happen or not. My worst trait as a business owner of where I've been weakest, and it's been my only. I've been like the most positive feedback. I mean, I was like, best that, that Amazon had, I was the best at Carhart they've ever had.
[00:35:44] Dillon Bettinger: I mean, like, I, I'm really good at what I do, um, 'cause I, I, care a lot and I'll do everything that it takes, but, um, I'm weak. I don't like, uh, when it comes to hard conversations and, you know, having to do the things that don't make me happy, um, you know, I'm a positive guy, so , um, I'd say
[00:36:04] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I I think, I mean, obviously you don't Yeah, I was gonna say, you don't need, you don't need me to, to encourage you, per se, but it's, it's,~ uh,~ it's not weakness. It's a,~ um,~ it's a, a strong suit that you can give to someone else on your team. So I think you've done everything actually that you're supposed to do.
[00:36:19] Chaz Wolfe: And I really just wanted to highlight that because that's what the listener possibly might be thinking is maybe they're like, like you, where it's just . That, that that conflict that back and forth is, is, you know, they don't look go, they don't go looking for it. They don't look, look, I don't, I don't see you as a drama person.
[00:36:36] Chaz Wolfe: I don't see you as a, you know, creating hard times for her, you know, for, for people. It's like, I, I wanna do what's right. And sometimes that can get the better of your decision making, and sometimes you gotta put somebody else in between that. And this is actually for every entrepreneur listening for every CEO listening, is that there has to be people between you and the thing because
[00:36:56] Chaz Wolfe: It's our, it's like, you know, get on a, get on a, a sales call, you're way more likely to give away that project or do it for free, like you said earlier than, than the sales guy. You need the sales guy. 'cause you need margin. You know, , thank goodness for the sales guy who, who wants to make a little bit of money because he's gonna sell it and persuade at the level that it makes sense for business.
[00:37:14] Chaz Wolfe: You know? Otherwise there wouldn't be 150 people, you know, thank goodness for those guys,
[00:37:19] Dillon Bettinger: Yeah, we,
[00:37:19] Dillon Bettinger: uh,
[00:37:20] Chaz Wolfe: give~ away the~ whole farm.
[00:37:20] Dillon Bettinger: I, I, I get, I get that told to me a lot, Dylan. You're just gonna give it away, so, you know, for my sales team, you're just gonna give it away. I can't, can't have you there. I can't, you know, because I, I am that guy.
[00:37:30] Chaz Wolfe: Yep.
[00:37:30] Dillon Bettinger: just.
[00:37:31] Chaz Wolfe: Yep.
[00:37:32] Dillon Bettinger: You know, I, I don't, um,~ ~
[00:37:33] Chaz Wolfe: ~You~ got a
[00:37:33] Dillon Bettinger: always tell I got a big heart and I, uh,~ I, I'd~ say like, we're the, we're the biggest nonprofit.
[00:37:38] Dillon Bettinger: There is no, I mean, it's like, you know, we're, uh,~ my, my~ accountant's like, man, you guys do a lot of revenue for how little you try to make in return. ~Um, there's~ a lot of money on the table, but I tell 'em, I'm just, at the end of the day, like I said, my first priority is not to be the most profitable business if I, I don't ever, there's no great IEOS, right?
[00:37:56] Dillon Bettinger: So we have like metrics and everything. There's no metric at the top of my list that says profitability or revenue generated. It's, it's quality experiences, it's reviews, it's, you know, customers that give good surveys. Like that's, ~ ~That's always been my priority because again, when I first started and I wanted to make money and I had to have enough money to survive to, to be able to afford the mortgage, once I stopped living paycheck to paycheck, money stopped mattering near as much and it actually became more personal
[00:38:30] Chaz Wolfe: Sure.
[00:38:30] Dillon Bettinger: was like, I want, I just wanna be the best at what I do.
[00:38:34] Dillon Bettinger: Um. ~ ~That's what my focus is now, is being the best at it, not the most profitable. My goals are different than some people's, you know, I just, um, I think the afterlife, they're gonna care a lot more about me doing the right thing my whole life than, uh, me making the most amount of money.
[00:38:49] Dillon Bettinger: Um, so that's what I focus
[00:38:52] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah. I appreciate your, uh, your honesty there, man. Um, I think it matters, um, you know, good decision making profit matters. Um, we can't ha, we can't, we can't paint the picture here today. So if you're listening and you're hearing Dylan and you're just like, oh, I'm just gonna give it away, don't, don't do that.
[00:39:06] Chaz Wolfe: ~Um,~
[00:39:06] Chaz Wolfe: do what Dylan did and hire the
[00:39:07] Chaz Wolfe: sales guy so that.
[00:39:08] Chaz Wolfe: you don't give it away.
[00:39:09] Dillon Bettinger: Exactly.
[00:39:10] Chaz Wolfe: Um, but, but the, but the principle here remains the same, that Dylan wants to do the right thing. I think this is incredible. ~Um, ~okay. I wanna ask you a question about family. We, we briefed on it,~ uh,~ a second ago and we were rapping about it before we hit the record button, but you just got back from Disney World.
[00:39:24] Chaz Wolfe: Um,~ Um, ~you've got a, a, a wife and two kids, and all the while you just got done telling us that you were working 120 hours a week,~ uh,~ for the, for the years coming up in the business. Give us an idea of what that looks like. I, I call it obsession. Like I just don't believe in balance one. ~Um, ~I don't, I don't think it exists, especially for entrepreneurs.
[00:39:43] Chaz Wolfe: I think it's a fallacy. So inside of that, tell me how have you been able to obsess over the business? We clearly have seen that, but your marriage, your wife and your kids. All at the same time and other things too. I'm sure there's probably health in there. There's probably, your faith has been in there.
[00:39:59] Chaz Wolfe: Like there's all these other areas of life that clearly you're an obsessive guy. Tell us how you're doing it.
[00:40:04] Dillon Bettinger: So, I mean, what I'd say is there's, you can't have dull moments. You can't, I mean, there's, I've never had a, you know, I don't binge watch tv. I might watch TV while I'm writing a, you know, an email. And, and getting back with people and everything else. There's no downtime. Um,~ you know,~ I'm either completely, you know, neck deep in my business or, and, and one thing I did was I set up my desk.
[00:40:30] Dillon Bettinger: I set up a desk where my kids like to hang out, right? So as much as I'm not fully there, which is, you know, not great, but when they were younger, I was still there. ~Um, you know,~ I was always around the family even though I was still grinding all the time, I was still there, which that could be hard for some people because some people need to be able to focus and it's hard to focus with two, two year olds running around and a wife and, you know, um, but that was one way I did it and, and trying to make like time slots as much as it kind of sucks.
[00:41:00] Dillon Bettinger: It's, you know, as a parent it shouldn't be like, okay, you get your hour, but when you're grinding and you're obsessed, you, that's what you have to do. so it was trying to find those time slots of like, okay, from this time to this time, I'm gonna be present. and, and that was, and, and also like I said, having that conversation with my wife from the get-go, not just going in there blind, like, you know, not telling her what I was, what my plan was.
[00:41:22] Dillon Bettinger: Hey, this is gonna take five years. If you tell someone that straight up, they're gonna be okay with it. A lot more than if you just kind of throw 'em around and don't put 'em as part of the picture. so that's one thing that, I, tried to do to, help make the balance work.~ work.~
[00:41:34] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah, I think that you gave some really practicals there. ~Um, ~you know, the, the distraction piece is difficult,~ uh,~ for, for folks that maybe can't work at home, but for those that can, it is an incredible flexibility. But you're right. I. You, you, it's a trade off. You got, you trade some mental focus in those.
[00:41:50] Chaz Wolfe: ~Um, ~you, you're time blocking. You know, I'll, I'll say it like this because you're right, it does feel odd that I would schedule my family or schedule my wife, but I'll tell you what, all the other things that are important to me, I schedule. I wanna make sure I get 'em done because they're important to me.
[00:42:05] Chaz Wolfe: And so it's a, it's a switch of mindset. It's like actually when I looked at my calendar, I want my calendar to reflect what is important to me and for me for a long time, like you said, I was grinding, I was after it, I was in the midst of my family, but I really wasn't like making them as big of a priority as, uh, as you're describing.
[00:42:22] Chaz Wolfe: And so when I realized even just that calendar slot of going like, no, this isn't me just checking the box. No, this is me saying they are important. So then therefore I'm going to put it on there. Therefore, nothing else can take that time. That's actually what I'm saying. I'm saying.
[00:42:37] Chaz Wolfe: no to everything else in that hour.
[00:42:39] Chaz Wolfe: Right.
[00:42:40] Dillon Bettinger: Yep. Yeah. That's why I
[00:42:42] Dillon Bettinger: think time blocking has been effective. For sure.
[00:42:45] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah. Well, it's, it's a thing for every area of the business, not just life, but there's a, there's a disconnect there for some where it's like, I'll, I'll time block my entire day for, for work. . But, but then I miss it, you know, for, for the rest, for, for my, for the gym, for, for, you know, time,~ uh,~ you know, reading my Bible in the morning or date night with my wife or putting the kids down.
[00:43:08] Chaz Wolfe: Like all of that can just be really systematic. In fact, we are systematic beings. We do way better when there's just a system and we just do, do doof, do doof, doof. Like our, our subconscious is demanding it, it wants it badly from us. And when we say, oh no, I don't wanna do that. 'cause it, it feels like a checklist.
[00:43:24] Chaz Wolfe: It's like, no, you're, that's your mind saying please give it to me. This way
[00:43:27] Chaz Wolfe: I do better like this Yeah.
[00:43:30] Chaz Wolfe: I got one last question here for you, Dylan. ~ uh,~ the opportunity,~ uh,~ sits in, in front of you, let's say, to where you can roll back the clock and you go back to the younger Dylan, whatever age you pick, you tap him on the shoulder and you whisper in his ear.
[00:43:43] Chaz Wolfe: What do you tell him?
[00:43:44] Dillon Bettinger: a great question. ~Um, haven't~ really thought of it. Um, ~ ~I would tell, I would probably tell myself ~ ~to have faith. ~Um, like~ that you will get through it , that it, as much as those big barriers and walls that you're gonna find come ahead of you, they are going, you're gonna get over 'em. Um, because you know, you're so lost. That's why a lot of businesses fail, I feel like is because they hit that wall and they don't believe they can get through it or they don't understand a way to get over it.
[00:44:09] Dillon Bettinger: and believing it in yourself is probably where the doubt is, where most people fail. So just understanding that, you know, there, you're gonna make it through it and there's gonna be obstacles, you're gonna have losses. Um, but hearing myself say that from where I actually am there opposed to, you know, me trying to tell myself that when I don't know what the hell I've been doing, , you know, I'd say that's probably my thing is to have faith and, and, and you're gonna get there and, As long as you stick to it and you work hard and you keep up that work ethic, you're, you're gonna make it through this and there's a brighter day.
[00:44:43] Chaz Wolfe: Yeah. Yeah, it's powerful, man. ~Um. ~I mentioned this, not, not very often live on the show, but obviously I did with you before I hit the record button because it genuinely is our mission with the show is to be able to transfer courage and everything that you have done here today for the listener is to transfer courage telling your story.
[00:45:02] Chaz Wolfe: Because if they can look at you now, very similar to how you just described, being able to go back to your younger self and go, look, look at me. I'm not perfect, but like. I made it to a degree. Like I, I, I'm not done grateful, but not done as a phrase that we use inside gathering the kings, but, but it's okay.
[00:45:20] Chaz Wolfe: You're, it's okay. You're gonna be, you're like, I'm gonna, I'm, you're transferring courage, belief. ~Um, ~and so I just think it's super powerful,~ um,~ that, that you would circle that up with,~ uh,~ that, that message to yourself. I think mine would be pretty similar to mine. It's like, keep going. You got it. You know. Um, Dylan,~ um,~ you've been incredible here on the show. If,~ uh,~ someone is listening here in Kansas City and they need, I mean, you have multiple different divisions in your company, tell us real quick what maybe what those are. If they're needing home renovations, how can they reach you? ~Um, ~or if they're not and they know somebody in Kansas City, they obviously need to reach out to you.
[00:45:53] Chaz Wolfe: How can they find you?
[00:45:54] Dillon Bettinger: we'rE on Google. Um, you know, a perfect reputation, so look us up. But, uh, AllPro Renovations is our parent company, so you can look us up there and you can find us, uh, www.allproserviceskc.com. Is our website. Um, and, uh, yeah, we'd love to help out with anything that's home related. Um, large projects, additions, basements, anything that requires a general contractor, somebody that's gonna be able to put, you know, everyone together and get it done.
[00:46:22] Dillon Bettinger: Um, and that goes for rehabs. I mean, we do 20 to 30 rehabs at a time for customers. so investors, entrepreneurs that are trying to get into real estate. You know, we, uh, we're a great asset to your tribe.
[00:46:32] Chaz Wolfe: Love that. Yeah, we've had several,~ uh,~ we've probably done, I don't know, maybe about a hundred different shows with real estate investors across the country. Few here in kc. So I'll have to try to connect you with a few of those folks. And, ~um. ~Just appreciate your time, man. ~Uh, ~you've got a, you've got a real story.
[00:46:48] Chaz Wolfe: This is exactly what this show's meant for just guys like you that can come in and just be hon honest, authentic, give it to us in the real way. And so I just really appreciate that, appreciate your time and I wish you nothing but success, your family, your, your boys, all of that. Thank you for being here.
[00:47:01] Chaz Wolfe: Blessings to you.
[00:47:02] Dillon Bettinger: Yeah. Likewise man. Have a great day. Thanks for having me.

Join host Chaz Wolfe as he interviews Dillon Bettinger, the driving force behind the successful Kansas-based AllPro Renovations LLC. This conversation dives deep into Dillon's entrepreneurial journey, exploring his humble beginnings and the growth of his renovation empire.

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